Sick of Hopkins' fans ignorance.

Calzaghe-Eubank is the most overrated win in modern boxing history. I don't even have it in Calzaghe's top 5.

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offered a title fight with Calzaghe

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For all of those reasons, it doesn't even rank as a good/decent win, it was a classic example of cherrypicking a past-prime name fighter, the circumstances mean this cannot be considered a meaningful win by any serious boxing fan, and I would say the exact same if Pacquiao, Hopkins, Duran, Toney, Whitaker, or any of my own personal favourite fighters achieved a win under similar circumstances.


Hopkins's wins which are better than Calzaghe-Eubank?

All things considered, all of these are better wins:

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These could be argued better wins:

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And these should have been better wins but the judges' verdicts were wrong:

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What BS, this above is someone trying to rewrite parts of history. You fail to say how many thought Eubank beat Collins first time round and the rematch was a SD, or that Eubank was given a shot at the title 2 weeks notice when he was only going to be fighting at LHW, many fighters lose weight at the last few days, but you also fail to note it was a change of opponent for Calzaghe.

How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?
Remember Kessler is Wards big win and was the same age as Eubank here and had around the same amount of fights


Remember when you make silly comments about losses was G Johnson considered past his prime when years ago after losing to Hopkins he went 7-9-2 including the Hopkins loss

Look at the facts Eubank didnt lose in 19 world title fights.


You note G Johnson and look at Johnsons no top 10 opponents before facing Hopkins and who he lost to compared to Eubank. Just that alones shows how bias and limited you are . None of those fighters you noted have as good a pedigree as Eubank or Kessler in the divisions Hopkins beat them in atsch

 

You won't bury this guy, dude. According to him Jeff Lacy is better than Trinidad and Calzaghe beating a (ten days notice/ weight trained/ past it) Eubank is P4P a better win than Hopkins beating Tarver or Pavlik.

Both Tarver and Pavlik had flaws coming in against Hopkins, both in terms of weight issues. However, they were both considered ELITE and BOTH were huge favorites. Too sensible an outlook for your average Calzaghe fan.

 

Calzaghe would win h2h no matter when they met.

Not saying Calzaghe necessarily has a better resume, but noone.. and certainly not Hopkins could keep up with Calzaghe's pace for 12 rounds.

 

The poll has been done many times Hopkins always comes out top :deal. Hopkins is still adding to his legacy whilst Calzaghe is often left relishing the moments where he was putting on great displays against the likes of Tocker Pudwill atsch

 

why is glen johnson a better win than omar sheika when sheika beat johnson?

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

****ing hell atsch

 

Please answer, this question is for you.
How do you think Trinidad who was a great fighter but at MW had only had one fight where there was a glove wrapping query and never did greatly at MW or above after.
So one MW fight Trinidad who had been put down 7 times that I know of compared to Lacy who was a winner of 5 world title fights and never put down. Now I know Trinidad is a better fighter P4P but not at MW

 

• Never heard of any controversy regards Eubank losing to Collins and I do mean NONE. Regardless he LOST.
• He rematched Collins to a SD? Awesome and guess what? HE LOST!
• World Champion Carl Thompson who was KO'd by Johnny Nelson in his next fight
• Eubank was past his prime enough to lose five of his last nine fights and the four that he did win were against nobodies.
• And the weight which is a classic. You said many fighters, and you are including Eubank here, lose weight in the last few days, right? That means Eubank was well over 175 when he was then asked to come down to 168, meaning he probably lost 15lbs+ in ten days. Thanks for backing up everything we've said.

 

Dont just respond with the childish smileys make a proper response.
Following the Hopkins fight Johnson lost 9 of his next 16 fights, and he is considered one of Hopkins best wins. Sheika isnt considered one of Calzaghe's best but he beat johnson.

 

To any non-biased moron or non-regular moron, what we are saying is perfectly obvious. good

 

Lacy was a super middleweight mate? What are we looking for here exactly?

What does the amount of knockdowns against go for? Klitchko has been down 12 times. George Chuvalo was never off his feet. Is Chuvalo better than Klitschko?

Not taking the **** but I don't understand your point!

 

Point that Lacy although not a better fighter P4P was a better SMW than Trinidad was MW

 

Listing how many times guys have been knocked down is probably the biggest fail of Failey's monumental failure of an ESB career.

Oliver McCall was NEVER knocked down. Pernell Whitaker was knocked down several times.

Failey's idiotic argument destroyed immediately through possession of a modicum of common sense and knowledge of boxing.

Same old, same old, same old....