Sick of those huge welters

That's why heavyweights rule!

 

Great post, can't blame fighters for taking advantage of it, but it has been terrible.

 

This thread makes no sense, if you make the weight and fight successfully at that weight, then that is your weightclass. I suspect it is only the vertically challenged whining about this...

 

yeah sometims it works the other way. boxing would definitely be better off if guys weren't cutting tons of weight pre fight. i'm sure there are ways to eliminate the cutting and massive weight gains by naturally bigger guys (same day weigh ins, some type of physical or testing for dehydration, or max weights for the day of the fight after the pre fight weigh in, and importantly eliminating some of the weight classes imo).

 

I completely agree. Cotto has been the poster child for this abuse at 140 anyway, I can't belive that just becuase he got handled by a taller guy people want to rewrite his fight history at 140. They used to have same day weighins but they abandoned them because they are dangerous to fighters who are trying to cut a lot of weight.

 

Yeah, the bullying was all about size and nothing to do with a world class chin and stamina.

 

This is ******ed. He made the weight and that is it.

 

The problem isnt really getting down to the weight tho. Its how much weight the guys put back on. Getting down to 147 then putting on 10 pounds afterwards means your a middle weight not a welter and we have seen how the likes of Hatton struggle with just 7 pounds of extra weight to deal with - i think after the weigh in there should be a limit of say 4-5 pounds to how much a fighter can go up by. Problem is it would never happen too much $$$ to be lost for promoters if a fighter messed things up

 

Marg is taller and physically bigger...

 

Margarito had height and maybe 5lbs on Cotto. Get over it hater.

 

Why? Marg makes weight like every other Welter. He's just got a big frame like Williams. Boxers and fans can't go round complaining that a fighter is too BIG AFTER THE FACT their man just lost. No one would be saying that Marg was too BIG had Cotto destroyed Marg like everyone was expecting.

There are always going to be smaller WW or bigger welter weights...just like there are smaller HW's and Bigger HW's. Boxing has a lot to do with Skills and also alot to do with Heart and will. Marg has an abundance of heart and "WILL". his desire to win and out "FIGHT" his oppostition is what makes the man so dangerous.

Cotto could have KO'd 20 Men the size and strenthg of Marg just as long as they were not actually Tony Margarito. Cotto has the Skills and power to compete with the best, but he can't beat everyone. Guys like Cotto, Marg, JMM, MAB ect....they all are great boxers and fighters....but they are also capable of loosing to certain styles if their opponents are on the same level. Guys like Floyd are jsut a rare talent. Their skills, speed, reflexes and talent make it so that they are very hard to beat no matter who they face and most likely they will end up on the winning side of a decision.

Cotto can beat many guys no matter if they are considered a big or small WW. The same as a very slick and fast fighter can beat Marg...no matter how big or small they are. Styles play a big part.

 

What do you mean "But in a divsion which isnt' about wieght" ?? The HW division is just like any other division and it is based on weight. You have to be a certain wieght to qualify as a HW...just like in the lower classes you have to make a certain weight to qualify in any other division. There is nothing wrong with a guy who wants to fight at a certain weight class so long as he can make the weight with out risking his life. To make that weight for a BiG guy, it takes A LOT out of a fighter just the same as a fighter who has to fight a guy who had to DRAIN himself to make weight. It's not an advantage or disadvantage its all about how you use what you have and the style you display that will either win or loose a fight for you.

 

Thomas "the hitman" Hearns was a former welterweight champion who went on to fight in the heavier weightclasses as far as cruiserweight division.

He was 6' 1"...

 

Dehydration as menioned above is why they do not weigh in on fight night. The rules as they are now are the best compromise and I do not hear complaints from average size fighters about this issue.

The only other solution would be to add a height limitation to each weight class. Do we really want that to happen? I don't.

 

The difference was that Hearns was so thin that he used to have to do his weigh-ins fully clothed.