Silence from the Bernard Hopkins camp.

No way. Any film with a 'he has a twin' twist is easily the worst film ever made by anyone.

 

Well, it's not Double Impact, but I liked The Prestige. At least it doesn't slap you in the face with "BATMAN MIGHT BECOME THE MONSTERS HE FIGHTS" every five minutes.

 

Even Bowie couldn't save it IMO. Pretentious shite. Like most of Nolans films to be fair, though he does have visual flair.

 

Lets wrap this up - The Prestige is a good film.

 

Even Chris Nolan's worst film is still good - he is maybe the only director who makes complex, challenging films yet is trusted by the studios with true blockbuster budgets, so at least he gets to make something different. We'd lose something important if he stopped making films, imho.

Fascinating stuff, I remember those videos thank you for posting. I am ex-law enforcement and this sort of thing came up on a few courses I went on. It helped to know this stuff when you had to read a situation - we were often down on numbers (I was not uniform) and reading a group dynamic was pretty important. I agree with your take on Hopkins' dynamic in the videos, interesting analysis. He wanted to face down Johnny Nelson as Smith just didn't make his radar. Fun to watch for student of human behaviour. And fight fans!

Seconded. Although not his best...

 

TDK was none of those things though. It just slapped you silly with the same laboured point. And the set piece at the end with the two boats... I felt like my brain cells were evaporating... Truly abysmal and unsubtle.

But agree about Nolan otherwise. He makes cold, Kubrickian films about big concepts in a complex way. He's a rarity in modern Hollywood - Following, Memento, Insomnia, The Prestige, Inception - three of those are genuinely great and treat you like you have a brain.

TDK didn't. Begins was good - similarly dumbed down, but it had an emotional core that TDK didn't.

 

Sometimes , you want a dumbed down movie tho. Most action films have that feel IMO.

Not a fan of Seagals work I presume??

 

Okay, with you to a point, I am not as hard on it as you but I'd agree that it's not as clever as his usual offerings. But it made the studio more likely to fund further Memento-like offerings, so I'm very glad that it got made. And far worse films get made - his weaker days still see off many modern film makers.

 

http://rin*tv.craveonline.com/blog/169738-hopkins-speaks-out-on-dawson-fight

When RingTV.com caught up to Bernard Hopkins on Monday night, the 46-year-old fighter still was on pain medication with his left arm in a sling after his fight with Chad Dawson on Saturday night. Dawson was awarded a second-round technical knockout after Hopkins suffered an apparent shoulder injury.

Referee Pat Russell ruled that Hopkins (52-6-2, 32 knockouts) could not continue after becoming entangled with the 29-year-old Dawson (31-1, 17 KOs) and getting shoved to the canvas, which resulted in what was later diagnosed by Dr. Sam Thurber at the California Hospital Medical Center as a separated acromioclavicular, or AC joint, which connects the collar bone and shoulder blade.

Hopkins told RingTV.com that he had an MRI of the left shoulder on Monday and that he expects the results to be revealed to him on Friday.

Golden Boy Promotions filed a formal appeal with the California State Athletic Commission on Tuesday. The appeal will be heard at the next commission meeting, on Dec. 13 in Los Angeles.

Schaefer also has filed a protest and sent a video of the fight to WBC President Jose Sulaiman for review seeking to overturn the ruling. Sulaiman has also spoken George Dodd, the commission's executive officer, and could have a decision by the end of the week, according to his son, WBC Secretary General Mauricio Sulaiman.

In the meantime, Dawson's promoter, Gary Shaw, said he is moving ahead with negotiations for a rematch with Jean Pascal as if Dawson is the champion. Pascal won an 11th-round technical decision over Dawson in August of last year, battled to a disputed draw with Hopkins in January, and lost the return bout with Hopkins by unanimous decision in May.

"My thoughts are that we trust the WBC. We're going to pursue a rematch with Pascal with Dawson as the champion. My thoughts are that the WBC will see that Hopkins jumped on Chad's back, and that Chad did nothing wrong other than to roll his shoulder to get him off of his back," said Shaw.

"We thought that it was not a clean move on Bernard Hopkins' part. I don't know how the WBC will rule as to a rematch, but if they rule for a rematch, they would have to rule it as if Chad is the is the champion and certainly not as the challenger. We've already been on the short end of the stick."

Yvon Michel, Pascal's promoter, said that he will, in turn, "absolutely" pursue Dawson "because at least Chad Dawson is calling out to fight Jean Pascal, and he's saying to his promoter to make the fight happen."

Dawson could not be reached for this report, but RingTV.com is attempting to reach him through Shaw.

In the ring after the fight, however, Dawson said Hopkins "quit," and told HBO's Max Kellerman he thought the former undisputed middleweight titleholder "was faking."

In a more recent interview with ***********.com, Dawson called Hopkins "a scared man" and labeled the fighter's exit "a ***** move on his part."

What does Hopkins think of all of this? Check out some of his answers below.

On Russell's decision and what happened during the collision with Dawson:

"The ref said during an interview that I read on a site today that he only had his angle to see the action and that from his angle, that Chad didn't lift me up. I guess that's possible. What do you mean from your angle? You're the referee, and you're supposed to have the best angle in boxing. From your angle, you didn't see Chad Dawson stand up and pick me up? But look at the tape.

"Chad Dawson didn't just lift me up, he threw me off of him. And that's because I was leaning on him after I had missed the right hand. That happens to fighters all the time. We lean on each other after we throw a punch. You clinch. The referee separates you.

"Those are natural moves. But to get lifted six, seven or eight inches off of the ground, and then get pushed violently hard to the canvas. ... I mean, as long as I'm going by what I saw and can back it up, that's all that I'm doing. My thing is, look at the tape, wind it up and watch it again."

On the conversation between himself and Russell while he was down:

"I was asked if I could continue, and I told him, 'Yeah, with one hand, I could still fight.' When I got slammed down a few years ago, I got up. You know that I've been through adversity in my life.

On his tough reputation, the expectations and the notion that he was not hurt as badly as he says:

"The only thing that I'm guilty of is that I'm guilty of being a guy who came from the penitentiary, and comes from the streets, and who has a tough demeanor, which I do. I'm a guy that trains hard.

"That really places a high standard on me, for good or bad. Now, some people, not all, but they're using it to say that if he's all of these things, then Bernard should be able to take a bullet and to not even respond to it.

"Or, 'Bernard should be able to get thrown out of the ring and take it, because he's 'The Executioner,' and he says that constantly.' Or, 'he's a tough and he talks tough.'

"I don't get the free pass, and I don't want the free pass, because that makes me different. This is only my opinion because I'm hearing from certain people who act like I'm making an excuse.

"It's like, 'Chad did foul Bernard, but, I think Bernard could have fought on.' What sort of crap is that?' They look at me doing pushups between rounds when I beat Jean Pascal.

"I'm beating these young boys up after frustrating them first, and I think what I've established is a reputation that can be good or bad for me. If that's my edge, then why hate on me?"

On the notion that he was faking when he was hit by low blows from Joe Calzaghe:

"When Max Kellerman asked me about that, I was like, 'Max, why do you think I was faking?' Let me tap you in your balls and see what happens. Let me kick you or anybody who is reading this in the balls.

"Or let me pick you up and throw you like Chad Dawson tossed me. Let me see if you can take that fall on the edge of the ring where there is no padding.

"If you can take that, then, okay, maybe you're right. Maybe I am a p---y. Everybody is saying what a p---y can take, but they can't take it."

On his belief that Dawson was trying to get out of the fight:

"I've beaten a whole lot of good people. Everybody's got their own style. I've done what I've needed to do to win. So Chad Dawson, I believe, understood that his time was coming and that time was getting there.

"Even though it only happened in the second round, he knew that in the third, fourth and fifth rounds, he was going to have a mental lapse like the ones he's had in his previous fights.

"He's gone out to lunch a few times in fights, and you can't go out to lunch with Bernard Hopkins. Because I'll take you to lunch, mentally, and make you forget that you're fighting.

"Chad Dawson didn't want that fate. He didn't want to see a 46-year-old man that has a style that other young fighters haven't been up for and get beat up by a 46-year-old.

"I threw a punch, so he had an opportunity, by me falling on him. Chad Dawson got frustrated and literally tried to get out of the fight and hurt me by being dirty.

"They thought that I was going to be dirty, so they were preaching that to everybody that would listen. I don't know if that was [assistant trainer] Winky Wright planting the seed because he has an axe to grind because I kicked his a--.

Bernard Hopkins on what he wants the WBC and the commission to do:

"First of all, I'm hoping that the commission in Los Angeles does the right thing and rewards my championship on paper back, and, second, disqualifies Chad Dawson for a flagrant foul.

"That was not an accident. I could have broken my neck or fractured a vertebrae. I've got a family. He's got a family. I've done things in the past. I've hit a guy on the hip. I've done things that a Jersey Joe Walcott or a Rocky Marciano would do. But I've never bitten anybody's ear. I've never picked nobody up and tried to throw them from the ring. I personally think that he should have been disqualified.

"My thing is that I'm not going to say anything that is going to hurt me either way, I'm going to say what the rule says. The rules weren't followed on Saturday night."

On the notion of a rematch:

"I don't think the fans want a rematch," said Hopkins. "But if they think it's worthy of a rematch, I would fight him today or tomorrow."

 

Skellington, I linked to that already - there's no need to repost the whole thing!

 

skellington nice pic!! hes a good looking chap!

 

your a tit

log out

 

What is your aim here PK?

All you have done since Saturday is post non-stop drivil which, surely, most be boring even you now.