Simple Poll JOE FRAZER v ROCKY MARCIANO!

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Going on about opponents is to get people to understand their resumes are comparable. The point being, if people take Rocky more seriously rather than downplaying his wins and his abilities and analyzing the fight stylistically they would know a fight with Frazier would be a close all out war. Poll shows most think this way... of course there are a few who think its a runaway and no contest like She Grant. Of course they also believe Frazier hits harder than Rocky. :nut Can't ever give the credit where it's due. No objectivity.
     
  2. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two of my favorite fighters ever....this is a war...but..I have to go with The Rock in this one by KO....not an easy fight at all...
     
  3. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    This is a difficult fight to call.

    I believe their difference in strength to minimal, though I do think that Marciano would be stronger in the later rounds.

    Stamina is in Marciano's favor, in terms of maintaining power, but Frazier can probably throw a higher volume of punches over the course of a fight.

    Speed and footwork are in Frazier's favor, but Marciano's defense may be ok in this fight. The knock on Marciano is that his better opponents were blown up light heavyweights. The flip side to that is that Marciano faced faster opponents.

    Marciano clearly looks like the harder puncher, despite the size difference.

    The key differences here are size and speed. Joe Frazier lost against two guys, both of which were larger opponents. Frazier would carry a size, speed, and footwork advantage over Marciano. Marciano, as the smaller fighter, would not be able to physically break Frazier down the way larger fighters can. Frazier would be able to out move Marciano, be able to beat Marciano to the punch with his speed, and probably have a higher punch output to Marciano over the course of the fight.

    Marciano is a late round ko threat, but I'll take Joe by decision here.
     
  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i LOVE frazier, one of my two favourite heavyweights of all time but in no way, shape or form does frazier hit harder. i give that to rocky, along with durability though not by as big a margin. conditioning as well. ****, dammit pete, you're making me really think about this!:D
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Haha, yeah it's a tough matchup. Really a hard one to call.
     
  6. Cheese

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    This would really be a good fight. They both are get smothering fighters. It's hard to say.
     
  7. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    c'mon, just say frazier:rofl (it'll **** off pete)
     
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is probably the best idea. These two guys match up so well it's almost impossible to seperate them...the advantages the one may have over the other in any one area is slight.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Round 4, KO each other. How does no one else see this?
     
  10. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Forgot Bugner Princess ? Most likely did not know.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :D

    It seems best. Definitely a tough matchup. I still can't help but lean towards Marciano.
     
  12. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One of weirdest things I ever saw was in first Bonovena -Frazier fight. I thought Frazier deserved decision, which some say Bonevena should have got. But strange thing was what Oscar did after scoring knockdowns. Three knockdown rule was in effect, Frazier was down twice in first minute or so of a round, one more knockdown and fight is stopped automatically. Frazier gets up from secod knockdown, looks a bit shakey, and Bonevena runs! He just starts backpeddling rest of round. Anyone got a youtube link to that?