Simple Question: What is welterweight? Welterweight title?

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Manny Pacquaio can weigh in at 134 against Cotto for a title fight, that does stop him.

    The Limit is 147.

    By fighting at 145 it is no longer the limit.
     
  2. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no rule saying that a welterweight can't come in at 100 for a welterweight title fight but fighter's at welterweight are supposed to have the right to come in at 147 or below not 145.
     
  3. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    except you can reach the maximum limit of 147. So the welterweight title becomes 140-145 title??? cant be right
     
  4. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually what am I talking about, why don't they just have the title fight at 145 and then the next opponent who fights Manny Pacqioua can be forced to fight him at 145 for the title. Actually why don't we just change the welterweight limit to 145 to suit Manny Pacqioua and then why don't we change the light middleweight limit to 148 so he can beat the crap out of another weight drained fighter for a light middleweight title.
    Real greats like Roy Jones don't have to do this. He came in for a heavyweight title fight 7 pounds below the cruiser weight limit and still won so why can't Pacqioua just come in 2 pounds below welter.
     
  5. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I'm not sure on how low you can go for a welterweight fight... but I think you will not be allowed to fight in a welterweight bout if you fall below 140 lbs. for health reasons/risks..

    147 lbs. is always the upper limit of a welterweight bout... It just so happened that Cotto and Pacquiao agreed that their welterweight bout has a limit of 145 lbs. which is still within the range of weights for the welterweight division...
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  6. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    147 lbs. is always the upper limit of a welterweight bout... It just so happened that Cotto and Pacquiao agreed that their welterweight bout has a limit of 145 lbs. which is still within the range of weights for the welterweight division...
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  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes you could come in below 140 for a welterweight fight. Obviously not many fighters do but the rule is have to come in at 147 or below. I just made an example as well when I referred to Roy Jones winning the heavyweight title below the cruiser weight limit. Roy Jones came in at 193 pounds so he could keep his speed but John Ruiz was allowed to weigh what he wanted just like Cotto should be allowed to.:good
     
  8. iceferg

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    Cotto agreed that the limit for their bout would be 145 not their welterweight bout. He said yes I will move down and meet him at 145 but but since it is at 145 it is no longer a welterweight fight and I will no longer put my welterweight title on the line. Ricky Hatton weighed in at 145 when he fought Mayweather and Mayweather weighed in at 152 when he fought De La Hoya at light middle weight. They had to try and use their boxing skills to beat a bigger man and prove how good they are p4p.
     
  9. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    We already defined what is a welterweight, welterweight fight and welterweight title...;) 145 is a welterweight fight... Cotto has the right not to defend his welterweight title against PAC but his reason is wrong if he consider that 145 is NOT a welterweight fight...
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  10. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I dunno about the highlighted above... Could this mean that 2 boxers come in at weigh-in both weighing only 138 lbs. and allowed to fight for the welterweight title?? I think this is not possible...
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  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    False. You can weigh below 140. 147 is the limit.

    145 is below it.
     
  12. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is very simple.

    A welterweight fighter, fighting for a welterweight title, has the right to weigh in at exactly 147 pounds.

    Under the current contract, Cotto has agreed to fight BELOW the welterweight limit.

    If he abides by this contract, he can not weigh in as a FULL welterweight, which is his right in any other fight for the title.

    Therefore, there is no reason his belt MUST be on the line.

    Jesus. Let's move on already.
     
  13. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    But the sanctioning/governing body WBO ruled that PAC-Cotto can be made with the welterweight title on the line... Who has more say in determining if a fight could be a title fight or not, the sanctioning body or the boxer??
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  14. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    So you mean 2 boxers weigh-in at 139 and their fight is considered a welterweight fight??... Please educate me on this... Isn't it, it's more appropriate to call their fight a junior welterweight fight??
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  15. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Exactly.

    But some people don't seem to get that. It's Cotto's choice to defend his 147-pound title at 145 or not. It's not like he must do it. I just think Pac fans and some neutral fans get upset about the belt thing and accuse Cotto, cause the title being on the line or not will determine if the fight happens or not, and they want to see the fight. Still, it's Cotto's choice.