Since neither were ever PROVEN guilty - who was/is the more likely juicer?

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    Holyfield or Pacquiao?
     
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    I say Pacquiao just becuase I like Evander more.
     
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    I also say Pacquiao because Holyfield never DOMINATED much bigger fighters than himself.

    Pacquiao was getting KOed by nobody Flyweights and now is DOMINATING guys much bigger than him like mad.


    Pacman's juicing folks!
     
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    based purely on whose weight gain was more likely to have needed assistance - holyfield.
     
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    Are you guys serious? This thread is a joke.

    Pacqauio has no evidence against him, and no one even said he was taking roids until Mayweather decided to run his mouth instead of fighting, while "Evan Fields" was on the BALCO list of buyers.

    I don't care who you like more, Evander Holyfield is a juicer while Pacqauio is not.
     
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    easily holyroid. the balding, balco mail in list, weird body changes...
     
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    here's a question... how does holyfield's steroid controversy affect his legacy in your eyes?
     
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    I have to say Holyfield, because there is direct evidence linking him to the acquisition of steroids and none in Pacquiao's case.
     
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    Anybody know at what period Holyfield started or took roids? I know the mail list came out not that many years ago, but any idea how long he was on there?

    Also, Holyfield gained 20-30lbs of muscle for the second Bowe fight, could that be because of roids because he didn't seem to lose any speed like others have.
     
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    plenty of great fighters have been on the wrong end of knock outs early in their careers. it's boxing, you're getting punched in the face... henry armstrong lost his very first fight by KO, but came back strongly and is now in most people's top five of all time. as a career progresses, fighters learn to protect their weaknesses, or just become battle-hardened.

    pacquiao has not dominated 154, he has one good win against margarito... pacquiao's comfortable at 140-145, and has been for most of his career, he just used to cut down more.
     
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    What has Holyfield done that would make you suspicious? - Nothing

    What has Pacroid done that would make you suspicious? - The list if ****ing endless
     
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    *is
     
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    the difference in holyfield's physical appearance between the first and second bowe fights is immense.
     
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    Personaly, I will give a fighter the benefit of the doubt, until some direct evidence emerges against them.

    Now Holyfield has basicaly been caught red handed buying steroids and Pacquiao has not.

    Sam Langford would almost certainly have been acused of taking steroids today, but he didn't because they did not exist back then.