Since when did the WBO become a legit world title??? THEY SUCK

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pugilistspecialist, Dec 7, 2009.


  1. Joe Collins IBO

    Joe Collins IBO Member Full Member

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    IBO rankings are not rigged. IBO has no interim champs.
     
  2. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The WBO became a major belt b/c of Naseem Hamed and Marco Antonio Barrera. Hamed legitimately won the WBA, IBF, WBC belts at featherweight, but since those sanctioning bodies wanted to marginalize the WBO, they would force Hamed to choose b/w their belt and the WBO. Hamed chose to stick with the WBO, he became the undisputed champion despite only having the WBO, and his popularity soared- becoming the first million dollar featherweight.

    When Barrera beat him, he continued this practice, himself having arguably been the best fighter at 122 despite only having the WBO belt.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm talking about the WBC,WBA,IBF, and WBO. The IBO is a second tier title.
     
  4. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe - I mentioned the IBO with a vaguely positive reference earlier in the thread but still have a tough time seeing it as a "solution" to the problem. If you're here to garner everyday fans' thoughts on the IBO, here are mine...

    The vaugely positive - I've read a bit about the organization and its founder and best as I can tell, the heart is in the right place. There doesn't seem to be too much money involved, but one always has to wonder then, what's the deal? You have to realize, boxing fans are going to be cynical about another organization.

    Why fans will resist - Another organization isn't the solution, of course; as you say, 2 is 1 too many. The IBO has gained profile by being where other belts aren't - at big fights that are recognizing the best at the weight. BUT, it also has a good number of weak champs and nonsense like the Green/Jones fight doesn't help with credibility. Also, there will be the perception of "just another corrupt body", which will be difficult to overcome. Be clear about how much money is involved in your fights (I don't recall this from my reading) and don't sanction fights that produce weak champs (what good are "independent rankings" when you sanction poorly ranked fighters for a belt fight?). Otherwise, you're just too similar to the others.

    If the IBO is are what I've gathered it to be, best of luck. It's a helluva uphill climb.
     
  5. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another word of advice... don't say things like this. Nobody's buying it and it's simply not true. Do NOT defend other organizations, only differentiate yourself.

    When Josh Clottey and Chad Dawson are stripped of titles for taking fights that they should be taking (by any reasonable observer's thinking), good fights are happening IN SPITE of the organizations.
     
  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    BS after Dela Homo won a few Wbogus titles, it finally started to be recognized, and people wonder why and how UFC and MMA gained so much ground :-(
     
  7. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    The Ring allows the #1 and #3 contenders to face-off for the title in certain circumstances. Vitali Klitschko vs. Corrie Sanders is an example of that. Wladimir was #1 and Chagaev #3. Nothing wrong with that. Vitali, who was #2 won't fight Wladimir, for obvious reasons. Wladimir has more than proved that he is the Heavyweight Champion of the World.
     
  8. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All the belts are meaningless except ring champ and p4p champ
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    The circumstances that they have in all precedents used to allow a vacancy to be resolved between number one and number three is that they consider the number two and number three to be relatively equal. I don't think anyone considered that to be the case with Vitali and Chagaev. If there is a clear number one and two, then it is absurd to claim a lineage can be created without including one of them solely because they don't wish to fight one another.
     
  10. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe as WBO champ demolished Amercian belt holder Lacy in one of the most one - sided trashings in a unification fight ever. Michalczewski beat Hill. He also demolished Tadzi who beat American ATG Toney. So how are these European fighters and their reigns below the American level?
     
  11. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The wbo doesn't count. I don't believe the ibho recognizes them either. When floyd beats pac I won't be recognizing floyd as 7 time world champ
     
  12. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never considered Lacy anything particularly special, irrspective of what others said here prior to the Joe Calz fight. Calz also defeated a washed up Roy Jones Jr. and a solid argument could be made he lost to BHop. Hardly a sterling legacy.
     
  13. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the circumstances aren't set in stone it can happen in certain instances and #1 and #2 being bros who refuse to fight happens to be one and a good one
     
  14. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whats there policy on ring belts
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    At one time IBF was the newjack upstart org...