Sit Down Earnie Shavers ... Deontay Wilder is the best puncher the division has ever produced

The aforementioned names also stopped far better opposition than Wilder has in his entire career. Unless you're still gonna claim Ortiz is an outstanding win again... "Almost" beating Fury doesn't really count as well.

 

Compairing Tyson to Wilder !?
Unbelievable.
Trolling at its finest.

 

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deontays right long range is the strongest that doesn't mean all his punches was the strongest out of any hw thats a basic way of thinking that's wrong

 

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So what? You completely avoided my point. It's not hard to go undefeated for any length of time when you face subpar competition for your career. Bar Ortiz (who is a gatekeeper at best) and Fury (where his reign ended brutally in their second fight) Wilder has enjoyed a long run of mediocre opposition.

Does he hit hard? Sure, definitely up in the all time list. Hardest ever? Can't say until he continues to face better competition (which he has over the past few fights to be fair).

 

How about sparring partners who have been in the ring with Wilder, Wladimir and Joshua and say by far Wilder was the stand out puncher of the bunch

 

What about the sparring partners that say Beterbiev and Gassiev punch harder than heavyweights?

 

Wouldn't be suprised. Beterbiev is what ? 185lb+ on the night ? And Gassiev is far more than that. It's not impossible for a extremely powerful cruiser to hit as hard as a hard punching heavyweight. But what heavyweights are they comparing them to ? Random heavyweights with decent power or heavyweights with prolific power?

 

Wilder is not the best puncher or the hardest puncher ever. And many guys are more accurate than him and have better movement.
He is the hardest puncher currently active and could KO anyone else currently active.
And as we saw in his last fight. Power means little if you can't get it to the target.
Also, if you hurt Wilder he becomes a lot less dangerous and he can't fight backing up.

 

How many years were you held back in the end?

 

facts I said that his only strong punch is his long range right to say he hit the hardest is to say all his punches was harder then any other hw which is wrong

 

Someone else bumped the thread, but you mentioned Williams and McBride yesterday.

Yeah, the others had no names that they didn’t stop. But once again, you never apply context.

I’m pretty sure that both Foreman and Mike could have replicated Wilder’s results had they have followed the exact same timeline.

Let’s see what Wilder’s doing when he’s in his 40’s.

Let’s see him knock out all of his opponents if he has another 30-40 fights like Foreman did.

Yeah, Wilder couldn’t stop Fury. That’s it. But it’s no coincidence that that’s the best guy that he’s ever fought. If you could apply logic, you’d realise that he may not have gotten the opportunity to have knocked out all of the guys who Mike and Foreman fought, thus lowering his statistics.

If Wilder couldn’t knock out Fury in 2 attempts, then who’s to say that he could definitely have knocked out everyone on their resumes.

We know that Wilder hits extremely hard. But you are trying to debate on statistics.

You are trying to debate on his knockout percentage. But it’s not enough. Because it’s not as simple as that.

 

Casual fan logic at his finest.

Did you watch all of those fights?

Did you watch ANY of those fights?

Julian Jackson didn’t stop everyone who he fought. And some of them were low level fighters.

Sometimes fighters are outboxed where they can’t land their perfect power shots.

Sometimes fighters aren’t always at their best due to their schedules.

Sometimes fighters are injured.

Sometimes fighters fight on for too long when they’re simply not as great as they once were.

Sometimes fighters fight on to the point where they’re only shells of their former selves.

If you’d have given a prime version of Julian Jackson just 2 opponents per year, then he’d no doubt have knocked them all out. But in real time, it wasn’t possible for him to do so.

It’s not that he hit them all with flush shots yet some of them were able to take them. It’s that it wasn’t always possible for him to land them, due to the factors I’ve listed above.

I’m sure that had he have been able to have landed the kind of shot on everyone that he knocked out Graham with, then he’d probably have iced everyone. But it just wasn’t possible.

You are very ignorant.

If we were to debate purely on statistics, then I could say that GGG had much more power than what Julian Jackson ever had. Yet if you’d watched both of their careers, you’d know that that wasn’t true.

Claiming that Wilder definitely hits harder than Mike Tyson, on the grounds that Mike couldn’t knock out guys like Danny Williams and Kevin McBride, is something that you’d see posted from a casual or a newb on social media. Anyone who knows of Mike’s career, knows that an 80’s version of Mike could literally have iced both of those guys on the same night. They literally weren’t world class HW’s. Both of them were career level European level fighters. The reason that Mike couldn’t knock them out, is because he was completely and utterly shot at that point in his career. He shouldn’t even have been fighting.

If Wilder is the greatest puncher that the sport has ever seen, then you need to be making an enquiry on why he wasn’t able to knock out Tyson Fury in TWO fights.

If he couldn’t do that, then there’s no guarantee at all that he’d have been able to have knocked out Evander and Lewis etc.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Meth is horrible for the brain

 

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