Sit Down Earnie Shavers ... Deontay Wilder is the best puncher the division has ever produced

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So did Neven Pajkic and Steve Cunningham
    Daylight robbery. It's like saying "Jermell Charlo successfully retained his title against Castano" with pride. It was a clear robbery. Fury clearly outboxed him and got robbed by the judges. And this was a Fury coming off of the couch, having 2 journeymen tune ups and severely abusing his body for a couple years.

    Try again
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike Tyson was already past his prime after prison and by the time he fought Lewis he was shot to bits, and by the time he fought Danny Williams he was a husk, almost a ghost. You sound like a boxrec warrior. Now name me Wilders top 5 wins. Quit ducking the question
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You mean like Luis Ortiz, Tyson Fury, Dominic Breazeale, Luis Ortiz, Tyson Fury and Tyson Fury back to back?

    You mean like those half dozen fights in a row? Three with the World Champ?

    If someone fought Luis Ortiz (Who is ranked in the top 10 by every sanctioning body and Ring right now) and Tyson Fury (the world Champ) in their next five fights RIGHT NOW ... is anyone giving them crap about it?

    :rolleyes:

    If Michael Hunter fought Luis Ortiz twice and Tyson Fury three times in his next five outings ... instead of fighting the slugs he's been facing like Sean Laughry, Mike Wilson and Jerry Forrest ... are people badmouthing Hunter?

    Just because Anthony Joshua and others don't rematch unless they lose, some of you guys seem to think fighting the BEST guy over and over is somehow worse than fighting a handful of lesser fighters.

    Would it have been better if Ali had fought Frazier three times in row for the World Title in 1971? Or was it better than he fought Frazier, then Jimmy Ellis, then Buster Mathis that year?

    I think three fights with Frazier for the world title in a row probably would've been better. I probably could've done without Ali-Ellis and Ali-Mathis.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many times did Charlo drop Castano in their fight again? Twice?
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You clearly need glasses. I said several fighters back to back, not fights and in total thats 3 fighters. Actually no it would actually be 2 because Breazeale sucks and has beaten nobody. The same guys back to back LOL.

    Tyson had Holmes, Spinks, Tucker, Thomas, Bruno, Ruddock, and guys like Tubbs, Williams and Berbick would be Wilders best win for sure.
    Im giving YOUR opinion crap because a resume consisting of KO wins Ortiz and Stiverne do not make you the best puncher in history, Wilder could very well be the hardest but his resume is lacking. Let me hear about Wilders top 5 wins :bananaride
    Ali fighting Frazier 3 times, beating him twice and beating several other top guys is what makes him a great. Besides, Frazier alone eclipses Luis Ortiz
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ducking? Mike Tyson's career has been over for nearly 20 years. Deontay Wilder's career isn't over yet and his opponents' careers aren't over yet.

    I don't know who his top five wins will be. He isn't finished yet.

    Get your head out of your ass.
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Castano outworked Charlo in so many rounds it shouldn't matter if it were actually twice. Just like how Fury boxed Wilders head off so clearly for so many rounds that getting dropped twice shouldn't matter. SHOULDN'T, but the biased judges had a different plan in mind

    Fury got robbed
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Until he grabs a few more notable wins by KO dont call Wilder the "best puncher" in boxing history. He could very well be the hardest puncher but he isn't the best. The resume don't suffice
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wilder would knock that Russian out in the 1st round now.
     
  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    But who is Wilders best KO?

    Not Fury, he is easy to put down,

    Not Molina or Spilka, both get lit up by average guys.

    Luis Ortiz?
     
  11. Furey

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    Wilder has god given outrageous power

    People like to slander him now because he came up against Fury but he despite the losing efforts he still put Fury on his arse 4 times over them fights.

    Other opponents he hits, they stay hit.... he puts peoples lights out. Scary power.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't complain about Wilder's competition .... and in the next breath say he "should've" fought lower ranked guys than Fury instead ... and that would've been more impressive.

    Honestly, I can't help you if you think fighting the BEST fighter in the sport of boxing Tyson Fury THREE TIMES is a negative and it would be better if he fought the best once ... and then fought, say, the fourth or seventh guys in the other two.

    It's always better to fight the best.

    Would it be more impressive, in your next three fights, to meet Canelo three times ... or, instead fight Canelo once, Andrade once and Plant once?

    It's more impressive fighting Canelo three times.

    IF we were talking about anyone other than Wilder, I doubt you'd ever say something so stupid.

    In his last half dozen fights, Wilder has fought the best fighter in boxing THREE TIMES and a fighter currently rated in the top 10 by every org and Ring TWICE.

    No one in the entire division has fought that level of competition over the last three years.

    Fighting guys rated LOWER than Fury wouldn't have been better.

    Again, get your head out of your ass. Your hatred of Wilder is nonsensical.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    That video clip from the amateurs was so long ago Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker hadn't fought their first amateur fights yet and Usyk was coming off losses the previous 12 months or so to SHAWN PORTER and Beterbiev.

    Shawn Porter.

    The fact some idiots feel the need to keep trotting a video a couple decades old shows they've got nothing to add to any current discussion. That's why I have them on Ignore. (Trust me, you don't miss anything by doing so.)

    The only blemishes on Wilder's record came against the best fighter in the game who has 40 pounds on him.

    Guys like Shavers lost to the mediocre 190-pounder Bob Stallings and nobody cares. Wilder loses to the 280-pound World Champ Fury (who he dropped four times), and they act like that shows he can't punch.
    :confused:

    Wilder is the hardest puncher the division has produced.

    Hate blinds.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ortiz is better than Whyte.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :borra2: