Sit Down Earnie Shavers ... Deontay Wilder is the best puncher the division has ever produced

Shavers and Foreman's reputation didn't come from the fans, it came from the men they fought. Many of their opponents said they hit so hard that when they were hit in the arms and the shoulders and the chest, the impact hurt so much they wanted out of the fight for the fear of what might happen if they were hit in the head.

Wilder has similar power. He doesn't need to hit the chin, the temple or behind the ear to concuss his opponents. Many fighters use their high forehead to butt their opponents because of how hard and durable it is. Wilder can hit you in the forehead an knock you out.

Wilder can be tamed by someone who has great defense and can stay on his bike all night pot-shotting. Whoever fights Wilder needs to totally forget about standing their ground and having a fire fight with him.

Foreman was a much stronger man. You will never see Deontay Wilder carry a cow on his shoulders.

 

I did..... sticking you tongue out......raising you arms......throwing 5 punches a round. while spoiling and stinking the joint out.....getting iced twice and almost out aint winning no fight in my book.

 

So you penalise a fighter for raising his arms and sticking his tongue out...?

And what did Wilder do other than in rounds 9 and 12? Because they were the only rounds I gave him.

I had rounds 2, 5 and 11 even with Fury winning every other round.

Seven rounds to Fury, 2 for Wilder, 3 even.

116 to 113 for Fury.

 

Put him on ignore mate, he's another one of these 'modern Wilder fans'. He will go back to UFC once Wilder is knocked out or actually gives another fighter a fair scorecard.

 

Wilder was already ridiculously overrated by many, but it seems to be getting worse with every fight against these overrated, ancient contenders he's been facing recently. This sort of nonsense wasn't justified when his record was all taxi drivers and bar patrons, and it still isn't. Some of us aren't falling for this con game!

 

Most statistics are misleading.

The appropriate context is needed.

Tua needed the perfect opportunity to land his great left hook, just in the same way that Wilder needs his perfect right hand to land. Everything has to be right. The technique, the timing, the accuracy etc.

If Tua could have landed a beautiful left hook on Lennox, he'd have gone to sleep. But as we saw, he never got the opportunity, because Lennox was cautious and just kept him on the end of his jab.

Tua's KO percentage reflects his overall boxing ability and the opponents he fought.

Unless you're focusing specifically on what happened when they landed their 'money' shots, it's a pretty pointless debate.

Nobody believes that Parker's power is comparable to Tua's.

If Wilder had fought Tua's opponents, I'd expect his percentage to be lower than what is. I don't think he'd have knocked out Ike, Lennox and Byrd.

You can't just compare stats and then determine who hit the hardest.

 

This is a very poor post.

Yet more stats without context.

When a young, 20 year old George Foreman fought Levi Forte, Forte was 1 of 3 opponents fought within a 12 day period. Think about that for a minute. He fought 3 guys in under 2 weeks!

Crawford Grimsley? And how old was George at that point? 47?

Meaningless stats.

Let's see who Wilder's fighting at 47.

Let's see if he fights 80 times like George did.

 

I'm sure you get the point.

Styles make fights.

You don't compare knockout percentages alone to determine who hit the hardest.

That should be obvious to anyone.

 

The fact that Doublechin used people from the final years of Tua's career as a gauging stick speaks volumes.
Unfortunately it's one of those things... people will only see what they want to believe.

 

First of all, Fury didn't quite "shake Off" Wilders best shots and 2nd Fury is 6'9 and very elusive.TOTALLLY different type of fighter than Chuvalo is and Fury STILL got dropped hard 2x. You think a averaged height come forward fighter is going to be able to take Wilders bombs all nite long.. I'll answer for you.....NO. If he goes on to knock out Fury and the winner of Ruiz/Joshua in devastating fashion then what will you Haters say then.?

 

But Joe Rogan and Brendon Schaub said he is the hardest puncher of all time?