Sit Down Earnie Shavers ... Deontay Wilder is the best puncher the division has ever produced

Honestly, I despair.

You are an absolute joker.

This is Bailey level nonsense.

I've come back one final time just to highlight what a monstrosity of a post this is.

Do you seriously think that a young, 20 year old fighter is going to be at his best fighting 3 guys in just 12 days??

If it's at all possible, please try and engage your brain for just a moment.

Three pro opponents within a 12 day period?

One opponent in Vegas, one opponent in Miami, and one opponent in Seattle?

Three different states in under 2 weeks, at just 20 years of age?

Are you serious?

To you those results suggest that he's overrated as a puncher?

A young kid travelling the country?

Fighting his 3rd opponent, just TWO DAYS AFTER fighting his 2nd opponent?

Ha!

Yes, I'm going to say that George may have been thinking about his next opponent who he had to fight in a different state, just 2 days later.

Floyd Patterson knocked Forte out a month later?

No.

He knocked him out 13 months later.

A Floyd Patterson who was in his 30's, who'd had a 4 month break, and who was back on the comeback trail.

Unbelievable, huh?

What, you don't think that under different circumstances, George couldn't also have replicated that performance?

You're not going to make allowances for his age or the circumstances?

Really?

I have zero respect for you as a poster.

A guy who couldn't knock Forte out at 20, ended up knocking Moorer out at 45.

A guy who couldn't knock Forte out, ended up knocking out Frazier and Norton.

How was it even possible?

You're something else.

On the one hand, you're criticising George for not knocking out 3 opponents in 12 days, which averages out at a fight once every 4 days, yet on the other hand, you're celebrating where Wilder has fought an average of just 2 opponents each YEAR during his title reign.

Brilliant.

Yeah, George has had a few fights that went the distance. But maybe, just maybe, it had something to do with the fact that he had an 80 fight career, compared to the 43 fight career that Wilder's had.

You're damn right it's time for me to go.

With absolute pleasure.

Instead of replying nonsense back to me, go and respond to Entaowed's post which you haven't yet addressed.

 

I can't go as far as saying he's the *best* puncher in the history of the division -- he needs more KOs over top guys, and there's just no way to parse the question so finely without incorporating bias -- but he's certainly on the very highest tier. If you place the question in the negative, whether anyone in HW history is a clearly better puncher than Wilder, I think the answer is an emphatic no.

Stylistically, his knockouts are starting to remind me more of Julian Jackson. I don't rate him PfP as that caliber of puncher, at least not yet, but as with Jackson you guys completely out or else zombie their way to their feet but are unable to continue.

 

Gotta love the simpleton logic...

 

That was a GREAT punch and there is no doubt Wilder has tremendous power but let’s not get carried away. He knocked out a 40 year old guy who he knocked out once before. I don’t want to minimize his accomplishments but I wouldn’t put him on any all time lists until his level of opposition improves.

He’s KOd so many bums and low level guys. I want to see him fight top guys before anointing Wilder the best of anything, even the best of THE CURRENT era. He couldn’t KO a 300 lb off the couch version of Fury and somehow avoided the likes of AJ, Ruiz and other top guys over the years.

Wilder has huge power, but he’s also got some huge gaps in his game. The huge power helps to cover up his flaws but they are still there and I think top fighters can exploit them. Old man Ortiz outboxed him ever round until he got KOd and he’s not a historically good boxer and he’s old. Looking forward to seeing Wilder fight the top guys in the game. If he does it and knocks them out, you have to give him consideration. Until he does, he’s just a flawed fighter with big power and a trail of crushed cans in his wake.

 

Big George didn't get called that for simply one fight.

 

No... he didn't. Big George got his rep based on his career. Let me guess, you were around back then and right after George fought Frazier, ONLY THEN was he called that?

 

LANCE99,

You're debating with a guy who won't make any allowances for the fact that an inexperienced 20 year old novice didn't knock out 3 opponents in 12 days.

You're debating with a guy who won't make any allowances for a guy not being able to knock out world class fighters at almost 50.

You're debating with a guy who celebrates the fact that Wilder has made 10 defences of his title over a 5 year reign, which averages 2 fights a year.

Enjoy.

 

Always with the good points!