Sit-ups bad?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by aaalbert, Jun 28, 2015.


  1. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know I am going to sound like I'm beating a dead horse but, are sit-ups really that bad for you?

    In just about every single training video I've seen from trainers, pros, anyone involved in boxing, I always see them do sit-ups/sit-up variations and also read about it in their training logs.

    I've been doing sit-ups for years and never really had any back problems or anything else aside from the occasional soreness.

    I really just want someone to clarify once and for all.

    Sometimes I read that they are bad for you, other times no, but you can't argue that thousands of people do them. :huh
     
  2. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Flexion of the lumbar spine, it will catch up eventually. More importantly, what's the point of it?
     
  3. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Agreed ^^

    What would you recommend as a replacement?
     
  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is the man to listen to on the subject, Dr. Stuart McGill (professor of spine biomechanics):

    [url]http://www.healthynomics.com/2010/11/dr-stuart-mcgill-interview-back-health-core-exercise/[/url]

    To add to his recommendation of 'stir the pot' (basically a more dynamic plank), I'd also include the ab-roller (anti-extension), deadlift/RDL (anti-flexion), contralateral weighted exercises (anti-lateral flexion) and variations of paloff press (anti-rotation). Once an athlete understands the lower back isn't meant to move then they can move to more dynamic core exercises that utilise more thoracic rotation (while maintaining lumbar stiffness) such as landmine rotations, med ball throws etc.
     
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  6. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As with most things, we forget the body moves the head, not the other way round. There lies the problem.:D.
     
  7. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    i've never really had any problems with sit ups myself but i can see how they can cause problems and that dr. stuart mcgill stuff is interesting
     
  8. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And there lies your problem. More vague BS that means absolutely nothing.
     
  9. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As regards sit ups, it means everything. It apply s to all movement.
     
  10. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The head can move independently of the body and contribute to poor posture. A lot of people, especially when they're beginners have no awareness of what their head is doing and move it inappropriately when performing rotational trunk exercises and pulling movements. That's why you have to constantly reinforce for them to look straight ahead and give themselves a 'double chin'. In throwing movements you're also going to lose a lot of power if you turn your head with your body as you're dampening the elastic recoil of the kinetic chain.
    And yes sit ups can cause bad posture, or improve it if they are stuck in anterior pelvic tilt.
    See that is a helpful post with information, try it sometime instead of repeating your vague BS that helps no one.
     
  11. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Plus the position of the thumb, dont forget. :D.