Size matters. A discussion on classic vs modern heavyweights.

Of course not.

 

One way to deal with that discomforting thought is to remember that if those fighters were fighting today, most of them would be a few inches taller and/or bulkier themselves due to the advances in nutrition and training.

I'm not saying prior methods are outdated by any means, but the best trainers can take all that worked and build on that. I think a trainer combining what worked from the earlier eras of boxing combined with a specialized routine of plyometrics and olympic-style weightlifting could make those "classic" fighters just as effective today.

 

Strange how a thread about immensize and skill does not mention the massive and highly skilled Tye Fields.

What, is this man not skilled enough for you people?

 

Is it posible to make your self grow in hight? If so how?

 

1) If you go into a time capsule fight, your size changes. The dutch have done a study on this and they are on average, 6" taller than they were 50 years ago! Marciano today would be about 6'3" and weigh about 230 Lbs. I think the modern day Rocky would do just fine.

2) Tyson did just fine while he was properly managed

3) Ali won his first championship 2/25/64. On 4/22/95 George Foreman defened his IBF title for the last time. In their only bout Ali beat Foreman in 74'. The direct championship lineage of Ali lasted more than thirty-one years!!!!!!!!

JR Head

 

As Evisceration already pointed out, the foods we eat every day naturally take care of that (I'm referring to the nation as a whole). Our diets today have more protein, vitamins, and minerals- so it's not too much of a stretch that somebody growing up as a child in the 70's will be more likely to be bigger than someone raised in the 20's or 30's.

There are exceptions of course- guys like Max Baer and Primo Carnera, for example- but a smaller guy like Marciano would be more likely to be larger if he were growing up today or 20 years ago as opposed to when he did because on average, people are bigger now for that very reason.

 

Thanks thats a good explaintion and answer to my question. I thought that you were saying one could take supliments to make them grow but what I think your saying is that the natural progresion in nuturtion has made us grow taller as a spicies in genral.
Another question. How much taller and biger would some of these now small heaveyweights if they were around today?

 

good answers in general. I agree, advancements in training, nutrition etc would make the fighters of yesteryear also bigger. Because humankind in general is bigger. Give some of the great fighters of yesteryear more size and they'd do fine.

 

That's cause the heavies are the only division with unlimited size. So that's obviously the only division that it CAN apply to. :blood

 

In the past, smaller men (sub-160 pounds) managed to beat heavyweights, so presumably there are still smaller men out there (cruisers and lightheavies--not junior middleweights!) who could take on modern ones and win. I see nothing absurd about picking Foreman over (for instance) Klitschko...especially since he actually beat Moorer and Briggs as a grandfather.

Part of it has to do with glove sizes and round limits as well--longer fights and smaller gloves tend to favor slightly smaller, fitter men.

 

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Yes a MERE 5 pounds parts one divison from other lol. That 5 pound weight thing relly helps you know.

We have WAY too many divisons. The reason they did that was because it makes more money when you had champions. Than they make more money when they part the titles in 2s or 3s or even 4s. lol.

I say we go back to 8 weight divsion. 17 is pushing it.

 

That's a joke, right?

Floyd was a great fighter, no doubt but Ali owned him. No disgrace in that for Floyd at all, he did better than 99% of the current crop would have done against a peak Ali/Clay.

 

I think it is WAY too easy to say that if they got the right training and food, they would clean out the division.
How much speed would they loose when big?
How would their chins be against the monsters of today?
Could all of them learn all of todays training?

Taking Mayweather and magnifying him makes as much sense...