Sky's P4P Top 10

It's not a bad list.

Here's mine...

1. JMM
2. Pacquaio
3. Hopkins
4. Vasquez
5. Cotto
6. Calderon
7. Mosley
8. Hatton
9. Williams
10. Darchinyan

 

Pavlik should not be there. Rafa Marquez hasn't won a fight in over two years and hasn't stepped in a ring in more than one year, so perfectly justifiable to not have him in there IMO. I don't rank anyone in my P4P list if they say they are retired or have been inactive for more than 12 months.

 

So by Sky's reckoning, if Hatton wins he jumps from #9 to #1. You couldn't make it up

 

I've heard a few people say that, I have no idea why. Cotto took Mosley's best shots, and out jabbed him for the most part. Mosley doesn't have the tools to beat Cotto. It would be the same result, IMO, close but clear win for Miguel.

 

People have gone up more places in the past, hardly unprecendented.

 

Cobbler, who ? Maybe others have gone up moe place but surely not to a #1 spot ??

 

The rankings are all relative to each other, so don't see why going up a number of places to the number one spot should be any different from going up a number of places to any other spot.

Last time a number one was defeated in the ring was Roy Jones. On the strength of that Tarver went from number ten to number three (using The Ring rankings here for clarity).

Hopkins went from number ten to number two on the strength of beating P4P number two Trinidad and then to number one when Mosley lost to Forrest a few months later.

 

Was Margo even top 25 before he beat Cotto, didn't he go up to #4 or something like that afterwards?

 

Quite a lot of people had him ranked five or six. Tbh I'm not even going to use that as an example, nor am I going to use Pavlik being ranked top six after beating Taylor, as both of those were complete travesties and are better used as examples of the inability of quite a lot of people to reflect on things before they speak.

 

Yeah but Sky believe Hatton will go straight to #1 from 9. Not to number 2 or number 3 but number 1 !!

 

What difference does that make? If Mosley had lost before Hopkins beat Trinidad rather than after, Hopkins would have gone straight to number one.

The weakness of a great amount of the discussions on this subject is that a lot of it has been along the lines of 'Hatton can't possibly be number one, therefore x will be'. We're talking about a comparative scale. You don't just make Marquez number one by default because Hatton 'can't be', there has to be some actual comparison of their merits.

 

I agree, I think Mosley would be too quick for Hatton, much too quick. Although if Hatton could survive deep into the fight (very unlikely, IMO) he would probably pick up a few rounds and maybe make a fight of it in terms of scoring, because Mosley's stamina is that of a 37 year old man.

I'd favour Cotto to beat Hatton as well, Cotto has a very underrated jab and just generally better fundamentals than Ricky. But it would be a tough and entertaining fight.