Skysports: Brook Turns Down Bradley Fight

Jones is nothing special at all, but he had no real problems getting to Brook. The stamina thing is an alibi - he looked fine against Hatton, but there he could control the pace. When he didn't have the upper hand the pressure, and the smashed nose, wore him out.

But the flaws are there. Poor defence - all reflex based and not skill based. He didn't seem to have a gameplan beyond pot shotting. Personally, I find the Ingle style is a serious detriment once you get past the Euro level guys.

Anyone with decent fundamentals and some athletic talent can pick it apart.

 

I don't think his defense is all that bad, only when he started slowing down he started getting tagged.

 

Nah, the stamina thing is no alibi. Even in the Hatton fight, while he was able to dictate the tempo, it was only due to how poor Hatton had become. Brook's excuse for not finishing him off was because he was 'too nice'. That was rubbish. He couldn't finish him off because he didn't have the gas to finish it, because if he did, he could have done so more than a couple of times. In the Jones fight, I think he tried to convince himself that he was 'too nice' previously and put out more than he did in the early rounds, which made him gas out, but regardless, he has a stamina issue.

Yep, and which is why I'm sure Amir Khan would beat him, even though he does not have the greatest of fundamentals, they are more than decent enough to beat Brook, but I'm pretty sure he'll get beat before they even face each other.

 

Which is my point exactly. He relies on his reflexes and anticipation, which diminish as he tires (and as he ages). He lacks the fundamentals - if he had better fundamentals he would be a much better fighter.

But the Ingle style is a load of ****.

 

It's an alibi for why he started getting clocked by Jones. If he had better basic boxing skills he wouldn't have a) expended so much energy and b) been so open to Jones' late round attacks.

 

I doubt anybody here would pick Brook to win so why give a ****? If it's because Eddie bigged him up then your being daft, he's a promoter so everything he says is suspect.

We all pretty much agree that Brook needs way more experience before taking on the world and he already has Saldivia lined up, he's in his mid 20's filling stadiums and there is the possibility of a Khan or Hatton fight at home now which would make him a far bigger name than he already is. Why get angry at a man for being prudent instead of rushing into a fight that he'd be doomed to defeat in when he already has fun fights lined up at home that we get to watch on Sky at a civilised time. If he beats Saldivia then he gets a crack at the IBF, win that and there is the possibility of a mega fight in Britain with Hatton or Khan. It's not like Bradley is going anywhere, the fight can still happen and if everything goes well for them both it will be a much bigger fight in 18 months/2 years and Brook will have way more experience so might not be so hopelessly unequipped to deal with Bradley. He will still probably get beaten then too but it hopefully wouldn't be a massive mismatch and he wouldn't be going into after going life and death with Carson Jones ffs.

If Brook was a yank that fought in Indian casinos and he signed to fight Bradley, when his biggest win was going life and death with Carson Jones on ESPN or Showbox, people would be saying what a **** fight it was and slagging off Arum and Bradley.

 

I have no problem with them turning this offer down, All about timing this game and fighting Bradley for me wouldn't of been wise.

 

Oh , I had the thought that alibi means it's not true. Deary me, I feel like that special needs kid, Miguel. atsch

In that case, yes. I agree.

 

Yeah, I can't stand the Ingles style, Brook has a solid technique and a nice jab, wish he'd put his hands up once in a while.

 

Aaah the boxing analyst,

Maybe you should learn to analyse boxing before you call yourself that or attempt to ridicule me !

Brook's defensive problem is that he has very little defence, his primary defensive skills are range control and reflexes, he doesnt roll out of combinations, withdraws in a straight line with his chin slightly in the air & takes very little on the gloves

He does have a good lay/counter, and his reflexes are sharp, but defensively he's missing a few tools depending on whos schooling you ofcourse :yep:good

 

Excellent breakdown.

 

If FW did this, my word he'd be getting some stick

 

What a dreadful comment, so reflexes aren't a form of defense? :hi:

And I ridiculed you for calling Quigg delusional, then you seem to think calling someone a 'tad' delusional isn't referring to them as delusional :rofl

 

Well, they're what he uses for his defence, but they're not a defensive technique per se. You don't go into a gym and get taught defensive reflexes - but you do get taught blocking, slipping, etc.

Kell basically has one specific move, where he moves his head back. But it puts him off balance and a guy with a good right hand and better feet (which won't be difficult) will knock him on his arse.

 

Oh dear

I wonder if you could change your username, ill ask for you, wait 5 :good