Skysports: Brook Turns Down Bradley Fight

Thank you Sir

 

It's still a form of defense, It's how plenty of modern fighters choose too defend themselves, Brooks reflexes are sharp enough to win him fights at this level, but like you say it won't work against the big boys.

 

I'm a big fan of Brook but agree with most of that, imo Kell's biggest flaws defensively are a lack of footwork/general mobility & lapses in concentration when he starts coasting

I wouldnt say he has very little defence, when focused he does some things very well but is by no means the finished article & is still unproven at the highest level.

 

Prove me wrong then? Don't just talk about my username.

 

Thats a massive oversimplification, Brook does a lot more than simply sway back away from a jab.

He's quite fluid from the waist up & has some nice evasive manoeuvers, his feet & his guard are more of a problem imo

 

Do not call yourself the "BoxingAnalyst" if you cannot analyse boxing

I have proved it to you mate, but you preceeded to tell me that reflexes are all a fighter needs to effectively defend himself, i wouldnt mention that to Pernell Whittaker if i where you Sir !

He is simply not a very good fighter defensively, how often does Brook stay in the hole and role/counter, how often do you see Brook rolling out after a 3-4 punch combination,how many times do you even see Brook catch a jab ?, basic defensive manoeuvres, when he withdraws, he withdraws on a straight line, he never leaves on angles, ever, and his chin is always exposed

I like Brook and his style but he has flaws, a good solid inside fighter who can box a little may just take him to bits IMHO

 

Lets call this a ducking.

 

Im not a big fan, but im a fan

Do not mistake this for bashing, ive stated Brook is sharp, its not all bad, but where on the subject of his weakness, i believe i have stated what i believe to be his weakness defensively

 

It's broadly the same move, executed in a few different scenarios. Allied with his feet though and he ends up out of position.

because of his physical gifts, he can get away with it against lesser opposition. But as he moves up? Nah.

 

When the **** did I say all a fighter needs to have is reflexes to defend himself? I said many CHOOSE too rely solely on reflexes, It IS a form of defending yourself..so how have you proved me wrong?

And one of Whitakers main assets defensively was his lightning reflexes, along with punch anticipation, footwork..when he was in sticky situations he could simply rely on his reflexes to avoid shots.

When did I say Brook was very good defensively, he's clearly not great in that department, but he's not totally shite either..like I said he can get away with relying on his reflexes at this level, more skileld operators who can punch will find him wanting when like you say he doesn't tuck his chin.

He needs to get out of the Ingle camp ASAP.

 

It was a good, constructive post, just thought I'd add my 2 cents.

I think we can all agree Kell is no Kid Galahad

Saldivia has a nice right hand & is fairly mobile, he doesnt have the range or the speed to beat Brook but its an interesting fight if he turns up with some ambition.

Time will tell with Kell & he might surprise a few people on here when he finally mixes with world class opposition.

 

I know your a massive Galahad fan MO, but I see the same gaps in Kid's defense as Kell's.

He has plenty of time to adjust like, but he's got that ingle style when you know he will just rely on his reflexes, It's such a shame because a lot of these kids coming out the Ingle gym are really talented.

 

This comes as a huge surprise for me.. clearly ducked him.

 

Reflexes are reflexes, they are God given not taught!, Winky Wright, took most shots on his gloves or made his opponent miss by a whisker, Pernell Whittaker understood the art of "defensive boxing" Kell Brook does not

Yes the guys reflexes are sharp but he has a small defensive boxing brain, if you cannot see that there is more to defensive boxing than having "sharp reflexes" then i fear you are in the wrong place!

Most top amateurs and when i say top i mean top (Mario Kindelan, Guillermo Rigondeux), have that solid understanding/schooling of how to make an opponent miss, or how to read an opponent in order to make him miss, this is something clearly missing in Brooks game, why ? because they are schooled correctly in all aspects of boxing, defending is an art, its not just reacting, theres a thinking process behind the physical aspect of executing it, and it takes years and a good schooling to perfect :good

 

When did I say he did? I said his only defensive attributes ARE his reflexes, I'm agreeing with you, all I said was he's not shite defensively.

Then you say reacting to a shot isn't defending yourself..when it clearly is.

Seriously have you not understood anything I've been saying? Do you not understand English?