Slow Down...No Need To Rush: Long Term Legacy Should Outweigh Instant Gratification.

He legit is. He can post decent stuff on other topics and fighters but on GGG it's a near obsession. I'm starting to think he's a spam bot

 

Oh I agree that preserved fighters can last longer than the guys who go to war with the best of the best savagely early on.

But even preserved guys have trouble avoiding the inevitable decline past 35. Hopkins last looked like Hopkins at 36. Martinez fell off a cliff around what like 38 or so? Marquez prime was finished at 35. So even the great "older" guys typically can only stave off decline until mid 30s.

 

Naoya batters Gonzalez tomorrow or in 3 years time...too big

I'd rather see fighters test themselves from the off rather than pad their records for 5 years...I'm so sick of the way British fighters "develop" their records, just look at Kell ****in Brook...when will he fight another live body, fight #57?

 

Take a guy like GGG though at his age just 1 single war and from that point on he'll be completely shot.

You can recover from a savagely intense fight at 26 or 27, but at 34 you're truly ****ed if you get into an all out war.

 

Mayweather's 18th fight he beat Genaro Hernandez for the title. He was 21. At the age of 24, in his 25th fight he beat Diego Corrales. At the age of 25 in his 29th fight he beat Castillo.

At 20 years old, in his 25th fight, Pacquiao beats Sasakul for his first world title belt. At the age of 25, he beats Barrera. At age 26 he faces Marquez. Age 27 he fights Morales.

Errol Spence is 26 and he's just beaten Chris Algieri.

Usyk is 29 and he's beaten nobody in the professional ranks.

Gvozdyk is 29 and just beat Mohammedi.

Inoue is actually doing things right. He won his first title at 21. He's 23 and already beat Narvaez. That's Mayweather/Pacquiao level achievement on track to greatness. The rest of these kids are a bunch of coddled sloths who will be lucky to s****e out one good win before they retire.

Roman Gonzalez is another guy who's not screwing around. Age 21, 21 fights in, he captures the minimum weight title. Age 25 he beats Estrada. He's only 28, younger than Usyk and Gvozdyk, but he's also got Viloria, Sosa, and Yaegashi on his ledger. Juan Francisco Estrada at age 23 beats Viloria and captures his first belt. He's only 26 but he's added Segura and Hernan Marquez to his list of scalps. Inoue, Gonzalez, and Estrada could all retire right now and your old "prospects" probably wouldn't surpass their achievements with the rest of their careers.

 

Worth noting Riku Kano is chasing the Japanese youngest champion record (set by Kazuto Ioka's uncle), Kosei Tanaka won a world title in his teens, Hinata Maruta seems to be chasing a world title before he turns 22, Satoshi Shimizu has reportedly said he wants to set a Japanese speed record...

Yay for Japanese fighters having *****!

 

If Ward were to lose to Kovalev would he still get in the HOF?

 

The sport has changed and guys like May and Pacquiao have somewhat changed our expectations and standards, for me personally, I'm alright with an easy fight here and there, you can't always even if you want to get the best in the ring every single time. But I hate when boxers take 3-4 easy fights in a row or sometimes even more, there's honestly no joy in watching a far superior guy beating on a no hoper.

 

The Golovkin haters will be here soon to rip into this.atsch

 

Tommy Hearns age 22, 29th fight wins first title off Cuevas. Age 23 fights Sugar Ray Leonard. Age 24 fights Benitez. Age 26 fights Duran. Age 27 fights Hagler. Pretty much everything he's known for is done by the age of your youngest "prospect."

Marvin Hagler age 26 beats Alan Minter for his first title, after drawing with Antuofermo at age 24. He doesn't really get other big fights with Duran, Leonard, and Hearns until he's 30 though. Retired at age 33.

Roberto Duran age 21, 29th fight, beats Ken Buchanan for lightweight title.

Ray Leonard, first title 23 years old against Benitez, 26th fight. Age 24 he fights Duran. Twice. Age 25 Hearns.

Do you see the pattern? These guys had drive and ambition. They weren't content to wait until their mid-thirties for their shot.

I'm prettys sure May and Pac were established stars by the time they were 25. It didn't take them 20 years. We pretty much knew they were great by the midpoint of their careers if not sooner, because they rapidly proved it. Then they both made a boatload of money the last ten years because their reputation was already so firmly established.

 

The thing is also with building fights up and giving it more time, it often drags on for too long where one thing or the other leads us to missing us out on the matchup entirely. I don't think anyone's complained about many fights happening "too soon", it's usually the opposite where we see fights happen too late or not at all.