Slugfest Galore: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini vs. Arturo "Thunder" Gatti

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  1. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who wins this slugfest match between Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Arturo Gatti? Who is the true gladiator?

    We're talking prime vs. prime here. Please vote, and yes your vote does count. Ciao.
     
  2. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    Mancini at his best stood toe to toe with Arguello for 14 rounds. I don't think that Gatti can do that. Mancini's just too strong for Gatti and knocks him out in the mid-rounds.
     
  3. Ray wins by KO, More durable, better technical skills, and more power, close fight but Mancini would find a way to win..
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Mancini would completely wreck Gatti. Too strong, too powerful, and too skilled. Gatti would get KO'd in about 5 or 6.
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    You're exactly right. Leaving aside long winded explainations of Ray's career, the Arguello fight was one of his very best, and most technically sound, performances. Arguello is my favorite fighter of all time, and I was holdng my freaking breath far a good part of that fight. For awhile it looked like this punk kid from Youngstown was about to de-throne a living legend! That version of Boom Boom against Gatti at his best would not be a war. Ray would box Gatti's ears off for a few round and then knock his ass out through the accumulation of punishment.

    Boo
     
  6. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But Gatti took the best from a prime Rafael Ruelas and won. We all know that Ruelas hits hard.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    what a ****ing brutal fight.
     
  8. Brian123

    Brian123 ESB WORLD CHAMPION Full Member

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    I have more talent than Arturo Gatti, but no boxer made the most out of so little.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nonsense.

    Gatti's talent wasn't too poor. He had athleticism. He had good hand and footspeed and a strong set of legs. His coordination wasn't bad as well.

    Given the fact that he would go 10 hard rounds with having trained on booze and women, his natural stamina must've been pretty good as well.

    Gatti may have made more money and been more popular than most fighters of his talent level, but he wasn't some guy who was limited in talent and overachieved to greatness. A guy like Carlos Monzon didn't have fast hands, didn't have quick feet or legs, wasn't blessed with extremely heavy hands, yet he's arguably the greatest middleweight ever.

    Or someone like Dwight Qawi, a 5'5 light heavyweight without very fast hands and without true one-punch KO power, limited amateur experience, becoming a HOFer, 2 division champ, and top 20 LHW all-time (according to The Ring), beating quality fighters like Scott (who was like 8 inches taller than Qawi), Rossman, Saad, and the Davis brothers.
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    That was Gabe Ruelas. Ruelas wasn't the same for the previous 2 and a half years since he killed Garcia in a bout.

    Gatti had a good chin. Not necessarily a great one, since he was dropped or hurt repeatedly by guys who aren't really big punchers, but given the fact that he took so many flush shots, his chin was pretty good.

    I can see Mancini winning via cuts or stopping him late in a war, with a good deal of the damage coming through bodywork.
     
  11. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gatti's talent was that in the same line of Marciano, Mancini, Graziano, and other Italian-American boxers as mentioned by Larry Merchant a few years ago. Gatti stated that his style of fighting was a dying breed, that is, the type of boxers that went all out for his punches. Gatti didn't have the quickest hands, quick feet, and a quick overal body motion, instead he relied on his strength and power punches which often times made it exciting for the crowd. The flip-side of course is that sometimes you eat a lot of punches from your opponent (especially fast opponents), and are susceptible to opponent's with a quick straight punch or jab as in the case with his fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. But this type of fighter fights from his heart; he is not a rhythm fighter (RJJ) or a technical virtuoso fighter (JMM) or a speedster (Shane Mosely) which often is associated with the word "talent". He doesn't seem to have that "pop" in his arm muscles that allows him to throw quick punches and jabs, rather Gatti "wills" his punches. This is also what differentiates him from a Ricardo Mayorga or a Roberto Duran. These guys were also "blood and guts" warriors, but they actually had quick hands and their style was governed by an intense temperment. Gatti's temperment was mild actually, he just wanted to knock your socks out and hit you flush.

    When Gatti went to fight his matches, he went to war. He wasn't the most technically sound fighter, but he gave it his all.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Gatti had pretty quick hands and feet. Just because he wasn't a PBF or Judah, by no means was he slow of foot and hand. Better than guys in these areas like Marciano and Graziano. Marciano had a better defense than the other two as he was adept at slipping jabs and had that akward crouch defense that guys often had problems with. Graziano was the most one dimensional out of all of them.

    Gatti was just hot-headed. In addition to not taking training and sobriety too seriously, he would often box, get tagged with a few shots, then resort to winging wide hooks.
     
  13. vargasfan1985

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  14. Illmatic

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    Mancini was a better fighter in every aspect than Gatti.

    How would Gatti do against arguello and camacho? Yeah, he'd be embarassed.
     
  15. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can never count Gatti out. Gatti has produce miraculous comebacks and surprises. A close fight that can go either way. Mancini was always strong throughout his fights.

    Mancini wins, Gatti wins.