Small cruiser can't beat huge, hard-hitting heavyweight

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No matter how skilled he is, according to some people on this forum. But wait:



     
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    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pat Cuillo vs Jimmy Young
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cincinnati Cobra Full Member

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    Holyfield's career just disproves this.
     
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  5. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    James Toney. a fat tiny cw
     
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  6. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    215-220 lbs is enough. You don't need to be 250 to be a top HW. About the height. Do you really think that an inch or 5 cm would matter that much? So at 193 cm Parker is fine for most of the guys on the forum but Usyk with his 190 cm is too short and too small?
     
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  7. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Another example... The almighty hyped Joe Joyce totally schooled. Same size as Joshua. I am totally sure the performance of Usyk against Witherspoon was all about getting rounds, feeling the soil etc. Compare it to the ones against Briedis, Glowacki or Gassiev. His chin is solid enough and he loves to trade.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Ruis were in shape, he would be a LHW.
     
  9. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    Spinks got KTFO by Tyson in 90 seconds and David Haye's heavyweight career is a joke. If you're going to use those as references, then you're accepting Usyk will fall in similar fashion as well. Which he will, one round against Wilder and humiliated by Joshua/Parker just like Spinks vs Tyson and Haye vs Wlad.

    Once he goes through those defeats he'll fight former cruiserweight contenders like himself as a heavyweight and his fanbase will go wild again.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't be daft.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte the REAL Boogeyman Full Member

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    All terrible examples.... Valuev? Cooney? Joyce from 2012??? JESUS CHRIST

    Try 30 years old, prime, seasoned DILLIAN WHYTE, who can hit you from any angle, with any shot and frequently, who doesnt take round off, who will land with combinations that many heavies dont use anymore,

    TERRIBLE TERRIBLE EXAMPPLES.

    These guys at the top can hit hard and FREQUENTLY.

    Look just pipe down till Usyk works his way up to Whyte, and you will see what I mean.
     
  12. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmmm, Tyson is like 1000 times better boxer than Wilder in everything except of length. Even in power department - Tyson had enormous power in streight right hand, right hook, right uppercut, left hook and left uppercut. Wilder has enormous power in his streight right hand and right hook, his left hook and right uppercut are levels below in terms of power and his lef uppercut is non-exictant as are all kind of body shots. Wilder never throws combinations while Tyson was excellent combo-puncher. Tyson's skills (both offensive and defensive) and ring IQ were incomparably better as well as his chin
     
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  13. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    szpilka is a natural cruiserweight and he didnt do to bad for 9 rounds vs wilder

    Usyk is far far better then szpky
     
  14. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then somebody needs to invent a time machine, go back into the past and kill the guy, who came up with snickers bars.
     
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  15. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte has a terrible defence and horrid Footwork. Dangerous and strong and tough though.
     
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