Small Hall struggles.

Pro boxing is brutal, a young lad at our gym was asked to sell £30K worth of tickets for a meaningless 4 rounder with a journeyman at York Hall… any short fall was to come out of his four figure purse, plus he’d be expected to pay the opponent. Top of the bill was a commonwealth ‘silver’ title, tickets prices ranged from £30-£70.

 

And who is going to fund that? The “small hall fighters” are “small hall” because they can’t sell enough tickets to fill UK slots.

there aren’t vacant spaces to fill in boxing,shows need paying for and that’s from the fighters bringing in revenue.

To make it easier to understand, an entertainment show is being put on and the entertainers booked need to generate enough sales to pay for the complete show + profit.

 

Good post although £30k sounds a bit exaggerated? However it is London so dunno

 

It sould be illegal to force the fighters tout the tickets.

 

very good point he was always slating the small halls

 

You clearly haven't been on the main darts forum! More likely to be reminiscing about the darts on BBC and why Peter Wright changes his dart weights too often...

 

Fury - Usyk
Bivol - Beterbiev

 

Small hall shows the prospect on the left hand side of the bill has to sell enough tickets to cover the opponents purse (journeymen paid often 200-300 a round) then sell more to make money themselves.

Even popular prospects, fine on debut as you garner greater interest but even a few fights into a career for many people and understandable tbh paying 40 to 50 quid to see a one sided affair, people promise to go but that's it.

The prospect fighters often themselves get disillusioned.

The promoters themselves there is simply little profit made on small hall shows, if any, often losses.

 

Not necessarily mate. Callum Simpson was a small hall fighter who sold tickets, same with Nathan Heaney. In Simpson’s case, once Sky needed some new fighters, they could take their pick of the best ticket sellers from the small hall scene and give them a push to sell more. As everyone wants to be on Saudi cards and the best small hall ticket sellers are replacing them on UK cards, small hall shows are just left with non ticket sellers, hence not making any money.

 

I saw the BBC article at the weekend with Steve Wood and others talking about the cost of a show - this kind of ballpark for London and £20k or so for the rest of the country.

£30k sounds like a crazy price given the O2 has been as low as £60k for a Saturday night in recent times; I take it we're talking stewards, medical, insurance and so on?

 

You can also add in ring cost, lighting, ref's, judges, paramedics, Doctor in attendance it all adds up!

 

So he’s made 2 big fights in how many years and how many shows?

we were getting these type fights pre-covid anyway and pre turki.

also, I’m sure at least one of those woulda got made without turki.

 

Some solid undercards too boot.

Undisputed fight in the heavyweight division? 20 odd years ago.

 

It’s too high to demand for one fighter to generate which is why I said it’s exaggerated

 

Agreed, that’s what I was saying. A good ticket seller may sell a few hundred tickets on a small hall show but those guys soon get moved up anyway, so who is left on the small hall shows? It’s generally guys selling tickets to friends &family.