Smelling Salts In Boxing?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    When were smelling salts universally banned in boxing?
    I know there is some conjecture that Maidana had them applied to him in the Broner fight.
    Recently we have had references on thread to Ali being revieved in the first Cooper fight by the use of them.
    A couple of years ago I phoned the secretary of the British Boxing Board Of Control ,Robert Smith to ask when they were banned in the UK,his reply was ."haven't got a clue".


    In the Thrilla In Manila they are used on Frazier .

    My question is when were they outlawed?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I knew there was a reason I delayed reading your reply.:fire
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No, I pretty much guessed you would be in playful mode.:happy:silly:boogie:partytime
     
  4. choklab

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    I think Angelo Dundee excused his use of smelling salts by saying it was "poppers" rather than the actual ammonium carbonate.

    According to wikki smelling salts have been used to revive power lifters and ice hockey players.
     
  5. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell if I know.

    I was looking this up recently, in regards to Ali - Cooper and couldn't find anything definitive and honestly, I wouldn't know where to start.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    This is true. Dundee used smelling salts ( illegal ) when Henry Cooper floored Ali. Its on film. Ali is not all there. The salts were placed under his nose, then his head jerks up and his eyes become pin balls.

    Did the Salts help Ali overcome a rough moment? Hard to tell.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting, They used to use them in the 50's 60's and Hollywood always used them in dramatic moments in Boxing films. I am curious as to why and when they were banned.
     
  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is the last sentence sarcasm? They clearly helped Ali and he should of been disqualified in that bout. Boxing management 101 be aware of the rules of where the fight is sanctioned. Even more so when handling a million dollar investment that is an Olympic gold medal winner.

    As for the original post, being that there is no universal governing body for the sport I'm sure various locations over the globe slowly did away with smelling salts as their own studies and conclusions deemed it necessary. Obviously England was at the forefront of this as they were quicker to adopt and enforce this measure before North America and other countries.

    As for the Maidiana fight nothing illegal can be viewed. It's maidaina's reaction to a napkin near his mouth that makes it seem suspicious. He pulls away very quickly from it. What was believed to be an ammonia capsule is in plain view as nothing more than dental cotton. Were they soaked with smelling salts who knows but for me it's not enough evidence to incriminate.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    Long Count,

    Yes, Ali could have been DQ'd. Dundee himself told the reporters there was a several minute break between the rounds when he landed from the return flight home. Its on film, and since the events were fresh in his head, you have to think he wasn't lying.

    By the way the film of Dundee saying this can be seen on ESPN Classic. I think its a focus on the early years of Ali.
     
  10. The Long Count

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    Ok thx for the clarification. I was unsure if you were being serious or not. There seems to be great debate over the delay in between rounds as years have passed regarding the Copper Ali fight. Many ppl feel that the fight was delayed only a few seconds somewhere between 6-8 today, that long 5 minute stoppage seems to have been an urban legend. To me that's not the issue. The smelling salts are. Dundee also illegally helped Ali back to his corner, although that is a minor infraction and happens quite frequently. It would've probably only incurred a warning from the ref.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You keep saying " ILLEGAL IN THE UK".

    Tell us when they were banned?
    Because if you dont know, you're talking ****.

    No change there then.:lol:
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This is absolute bull**** I have seen the unedited fight it was a matter of seconds.
     
  13. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone says they were illegal when Ali and Cooper fought and I'm sure they were but all the accusations of dq occur in articles years later. Let me do some research before I make a fool of myself. Or make a bigger fool of myself.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Just to refute this load of bollocks.

    "It has also been reported that five minutes passed before the fifth round started, but ringside timekeeper Stan Courtney said that is false. "At no time was I instructed to stop my watch to allow for the refitting of the gloves," he said. "Therefore, I waited until I got the signal from referee Little to ring the bell. When I did so, my watch showed that the interval between rounds had in fact been 1:40." "