Smith back at 160

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by avidlemon, Feb 3, 2011.


  1. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good logic :patsch
     
  2. somerset

    somerset Active Member Full Member

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  3. ashedward

    ashedward Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will be in the mix for a british title at middleweight and would have a decent chance against most of the Middleweights in the country imo
     
  4. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    Let's have it right. Degale fought a fantastic fight and is a top quality fighter. But fighting out of your natural weight class can diminish anyone on any number of ways. Speed, foot movement, power, overall fitness etc.
    A smith at mw is stronger and more competitive.
    Btw, the bendall loss was HEAVILY disputed.
     
  5. Trout Mask

    Trout Mask The Original & The Best Full Member

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    You have to wonder what damage the Degale loss has done mentally, even allowing for the fact Smith was fighting out his natural division and Degale is an outstanding talent, being utterly humiliated like that must leave a mark on your self belief

    I agree the Bendall loss was contentious, but Bendall had previously been stopped by Dann, Sylvester, Elcock and Barker when he attempted to step up, Smith had to go distance and you could have tossed a coin on the verdict, what does this say about Smith's ability/power at 160lbs?

    GOOD fighters beat up Bendall and stop him, they don't struggle through ten turgid rounds with him

    Bendall did manage to go the distance with McDermott but he lost that by three points
     
  6. widdy

    widdy lancs,where real men live Full Member

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    that is smith,not calling him at all,he is a good strong boxer,will be better at middle,no doubt,but he is just about british level,a lot lot better than a few,but not as good as a lot.
    barker is a class above:deal
     
  7. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    It's the old argument that if someone can beat someone else, and then another guy can't beat them as convincingly it automatically means they're a class below. In most cases it doesn't stack up really.
    In terms of confidence, who knows?? I think the way most fighters look at it is how could they have done things better as opposed to what the other guy did
     
  8. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Finally he comes to his senses.........."he was too fat, too small, and too slow at supermiddle weight"
     
  9. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    It's the right move
     
  10. King Haye1

    King Haye1 Member Full Member

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    Personally I do not think it matters what weight I think he's very average.
     
  11. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    right miove but you gotta ask why he moved up anyway .just got a tad lazy ? fancied his chances at super middle rather than middle ?
     
  12. Chud

    Chud Active Member Full Member

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    yeah the guy is nothing special. may pick up a cheap european belt Matt Hatton style or get blown out in a WBO title fight but thats about the best he can hope for IMO
     
  13. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Smith is the only boxer worth following on Twitter. The rest are so ****ing dull.
     
  14. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    I'd rather follow him than read the **** people like rio Ferdinand put on it.
    Smith is one amongst many others!
     
  15. avidlemon

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    This attitude that a boxer is nothing special because they may fall short at world level is ridiculous. There have been many excellent fighters who have won British titles but not made it at world.
    Boxing is all about levels no doubt, I mean does anyone really think macintosh will do any further than the euro belt he won? I don't, but it doesn't make me think he is a shocking boxer with no ability.
    The whole point of me making this thread was to tell people what smith is doing. Regardless of where this next move takes him, I admire the determination to move forward career wise, and I think he did a tough thing in admitting he cannot make the leap at smw. No whether being at smw was laziness or not I don't know. But it became evident it wasn't his natural weight class.
    Many boxers go through this correct weight class thing. Look at Kevin Mitchell. He could do with a move back to super feather, as there is something about him at lw that makes him look slightly diminshed. But it's about trial and error and doing what feels right for you at that time, and I don't think you can knock anyone for that