'Smokin' Joe Frazier (March 8, 1971) vs. 'The Brown Bomber' Joe Louis (Sept 24, 1935)

Louis tko 8

 

One has to take into consideration that Louis did not do well with swarmers. But you bet that there's gona be a lot of firework... I do not count out an early TKO coming at the hands of the Brown Bomber!

 

Very good point.
Still, I can't see Louis losing this one.
I think he'd win on points, maybe late round TKO.

 

Frazier KO 1.

 

They were both slow starters who got knocked down in the early rounds a few times. Louis, deadly accurate, would probably win. He was more vulerable to rights than left hooks.

 

Louis is not going to beat many great punchers at heavyweight. Especially not someone as agressive as Frazier. Louis would be pushed on the backfoot and torn to shreds by ripping left hooks to the jaw. His weak chin would fail him in around 6 rounds.

Louis does well aganist fighters who he can back up. Against Frazier, Tyson, Foreman etc., he hasn't got the defensive abilities or the chin to withstand such pressure.

Frazier's defence, power and aggression is a nightmare for Louis.

 

Maybe it's the Philly bias...but outside of Foreman and liston, i feel comfortable w/ joe's (smokin' Joe that is!) chances against anyone. I will take a frazier UD..the only certainty is that a Joe will win.

 

Frazier's a favourite of mine but prime for prime, I think Joe Louis would slaughter him inside 4 rounds.

Joe Louis is surprisingly underrated in these head-to-head scenarios. Most guys on this forum were picking Tyson over Louis on the other thread. And now Frazier.

 

I'd pick Joe Frazier by KO between rounds 9 and 11 or by a close decision win. Tony Galento had Louis wobbly and in trouble until he started loading up on shots. The only Frazier I could see Joe Louis beating is the 1973 overweight, out of shape version that Foreman destroyed in two rounds. Joe Louis could probably KO this version of Frazier just as swift as Foreman did, especially if Louis comes into this fight with the same mentality as the Max Schmeling rematch. Nobody knocks out the Joe Frazier circa 1967 - 1971. This Frazier gives every heavyweight in history a very tough fight, including Foreman and Tyson, who many on this forum are quick to conclude would destroy Frazier every time.

 

Question...if you are a newbie???? why do you presume to know what many would conclude here on this forum????

 

I think Louis would win.

 

This would be a pick em' fight, but if forced to choose, I would be inclined to go with Frazier. Sure Louis, had the technical punching ability and power to score a KO here, but he also struggled with left hookers who were big hitters. Frazier likely had more handspeed, better power, and superior accuracy with the left hook than any of Louis's opponents. Also, as one poster already pointed out, Louis did not like swarmers, and Frazier had a knack for being all over his opponents. The only man who ever truly TKO'd Frazier was Foreman, who although was not the techinician that Louis was, had arguably superior power and the ability to lift Frazier off the canvas-something Louis would not be able to do. This was also a declining Frazier that Foreman fought as well.

Frazier by stoppage late.

 

Not presuming anything. I've read quite a few posts from different threads, mostly discrediting Frazier based on the one fight in 1973 against George Foreman. The majority of the posts I've read comparing Tyson and Foreman with Frazier have Joe getting beaten by those two fighters regardless of which Frazier is used for comparison. No disrespect to anyone on this forum but my point is that Joe Frazier gets very little respect on this forum. He was one of the greatest of the shorter fighters in the history of the sport.