Smokin' Joe Frazier Vs. Lennox Lewis

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  1. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that didn't stop lewis wading in against te likes of golota and ruddock though, i think alot of it depends on if frazier had fought foreman at this point if lewis had seen that he could be bombed out i think he would go for it, if it was pre foreman then the fight would be alot different.
     
  2. bernie4366

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    He wouldn't be allowed to. Frazier fights one way and one way only: with smothering pressure. He was very VERY hittable. If Frazier could take your power, you were in for a long night. If he couldn't, easy (relatively) win for you. Any power puncher is a bad match-up for Frazier.
     
  3. Undisputed P4P

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    Frazier via brutal knockout late into the fight. Lewis isn't in the same league as the likes of frazier, liston, ali and foreman.
     
  4. rydersonthestorm

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    how so:huh
     
  5. Undisputed P4P

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    them 4 would beat everyone that lewis beat, and they would destroy the fighters lewis lost to. Liston, Frazier and Foreman would KO Lewis and ali would dance and put on a boxing clinic, he aint in the same league as these fighters, he was a good champ, but not great.
     
  6. rydersonthestorm

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    i would say your in the minority with that view point, i certainly wouldn't say all those guys beat holyfield just for a start.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    He wouldn't be allowed to what? You just said that in response to nothing.

    Frazier's head movement and herky jerky style actually made him less hittable than someone like yourself (who's obviously not seen much Frazier) would believe. You act as if Frazier has nothing to make any power puncher worry about in their own right. And once again, it wasn't Lennox's style to fight the way a Foreman would fight, so get that completely inept comparison out of your heads before I start using the old "If McCall and Rahman could do it...." bull****.
     
  8. rydersonthestorm

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    lewis fought different styles for different fights, grant, golota, ruddock and a few other will tell you that.
     
  9. D-MAC

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    I would lean towards Lewis via KO.
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I didn't. Someone said LL would try to sit back and jab and box. Frazier would never let that happen. TBH I really don't think Frazier was all that special of a champ. He got Ali coming off a long layoff, and in the third fight Ali didn't train like he should have because Frazier looked to be 100% shot off the Foreman fights. Ali was notorious for only training as hard as he thought he had to, and no harder.

    I think the second Ali-Frazier fight is the most indicative of their true H2H matchup.
     
  11. JM22

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    Does anyone give Frazier???
    What will happen when he land's that left hook!!!
     
  12. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well as lewis has a much betetr chin than he is given credit for maybe nothing, also will he land it as lewis wasn't really ever troubled by the left hook.
     
  13. bernie4366

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    I'm guessing you never saw the Golota fight, oh mighty expert. LL could do it in several ways, Frazier only one way. Frazier might get him out of there if he lands that left hook, but I don't see it happening.

    And if you think Frazier wasn't extremely hittable, YOU haven't seen much Frazier.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    So you're saying Lewis would win an inside battle?

    You just admitted that Frazier was shot for the third Ali fight, yet you're discrediting his performance because of how Ali showed up?

    Ali was better in the first fight, he was just facing a Frazier who wouldn't be denied that night.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    He was hittable, noone said he wasn't, but it's not as if he was a bad defensive fighter, especially given his style.
    I've seen the Golota fight. I just don't see the relevance in comparing one of the most inconsistent, heartless mental midgets to ever grace the HW division with Joe Frazier.