Smoking Joe Frazier is thrust into the world of boxing in 1959.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Richard M Murrieta, Aug 4, 2022.

  1. billyb71

    billyb71 Member Full Member

    Jun 6, 2022
    Liston would take the Smoke out of Smokin' Joe.
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  2. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

    May 28, 2022
    Well he don’t need to be calling me a idiot etc…I don’t care who he is.
  3. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 23, 2019
    That's true. You know, you guys might actually share at least a couple of opinions.
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2022
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  4. Fogger

    Fogger Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 9, 2021
    All respect to you but I find that hard to imagine. A 36 year old Marciano coming off a three and a half year layoff and beating an in-his-prime Smokin' Joe would be an extremely difficult task. Rocky would use his I'll take two or three punches to land one style but that is a bad way to fight Frazier. I believe that in this one, Rocky would get stopped in the 7th round or so.

    Happily, The Rock was one of the few smart ones who stayed retired.
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  5. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

    May 28, 2022
    I was sorta being sarcastic with my post lol
  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 16, 2019
    I do have to agree that Joe Frazier of Feb 16 1970 before that unusual storm that swept through New York thus creating a time warp would have taken out most of the top ten. But the only one standing in Frazier's way was Charles Sonny Liston of 1959. Ingo, the champion would have had nightmares in his land of Sweden, he opts instead to have a rematch with Floyd Patterson booked for June 20 1960 in New York. Cleveland Big Cat Williams would have told his manager Hugh Benbow, Anybody But That Newcomer By The Name Of Frazier, I Don't Smoke. Even Roy Cut N Shoot Harris would have gone back to teaching. Even Eddie Machen admits that he would rather have a rematch with Ingo any day.
  7. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

    Mar 19, 2021
    too much Sonny Liston and don't you forget it!
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    Does this have anything to do with Larry Holmes getting his ribs broken by Joe? You need to forgive that man. It's only been 50 years.
  9. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

    May 28, 2022
    Nope has to do with the high gas prices in California
  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    Grow up...
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  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Dec 16, 2012
    Swag has been an excellent poster in terms of substance & graciousness until recently.
    Then I was one of 3 guys (unless others went unnoticed) he ridiculed or was otherwise cruel towards.
    Since then he has gone Full Troll or Modernista channeling Comfy Contempt from a Safe Anonymous Internet Distance

    Something must be wrong to elicit such unprovoked personal attacks.
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Given the mods deleted a truckload of posts a few days between a few of you i'd be steering well clear of being the one to start it back up in public.

    I'm not the brightest but i reckon anyone looking to rekindle things would be trading a really really fine line.

    I'd let it rest unless provoked and even then I'd be careful in what i said.

    Or simply PM them.
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2022
  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 23, 2019
    You're both valuable members here so I hope you can both work it out.
  14. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

    Nov 8, 2011
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    He would obviously have to face a few mediocrities first as no one back then would know he was the future champion. So I’m guessing it might take him perhaps two years to get a title shot ? If this is how things would unfold ( and I’m reaching here ) then a meeting between Frazier and Patterson around 1961 seems like the most likely scenario In which case I’d favor Joe to win. Then again, Patterson was steered clear of some of the better contenders of his time so Joe may find himself face to face with Sonny Liston in perhaps an elimination match. Under these circumstances I’d favor Sonny. But a Liston victory isn’t a forgone conclusion in my book. Joe was a master at slipping the jab and barreling his way to the inside where he worked the head and body very well. He had what was possibly the best left hook of all time and we saw how Liston was shaken up by the left of Cleveland Williams. Frazier was also very fast, had an incredible work rate and great stamina. Lots of heart too. Would have been a tough one