ok i am a pretty big klit fan but i am not that ignorent. if you are talking about Vladimir12345678899988547643564325.... he gives klitschko fans a bad name.
thank god... though i am sure that klit123465498765453132165498794132 isn't actually a klitschko fan... no one can be that obnoxious and not do it on purpose.
If Wlad had a solid chin I'd favor him to beat any HW outside of Lewis. He is skilled, large, and athletic due to current steriods and training Current athletes have an advantage due to advances in sports science.
If Wlad had a chin, like Vitali, Jesus... I always found it weird that Vitali has the chin but not the skill where Wlad has all the skill, speed, power, but NO chin.
Some Klit fans say "tiny minority" but in actuality it's more than just a few who are just plain ridiculous.
Depends on what you consider ridiculous. If you think that Jack Dempsey wouldn't get absolutely destroyed by Wlad then I'd say that that's pretty ridiculous. Lots of nonsense on both sides.
The Klits are in the top ten. Ali and Joe Louis are still #1 and #2. It doesn't matter that they would have beaten the likes of Dempsey and Jack Johnson, they would, just like Usain Bolt would cream Jesse Owens, but you have to judge it in isolation. They have dominated their era and will go on dominating, so they have to be recognised as such. Top ten.
However, let's not forget that Ali often wasn't very diligent when it comes to dieting and preparation. With proper modern diet and nutrition I think Ali would be closer to 210 and more toned with more muscle and less bodyfat than his post-prison days. So Ali in a time-machine could be as small as today's heavyweights -- or much bigger if he wanted to trade the speed for muscle.