So apparently Pacquiao's easy to hit...

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Clottey's uppercuts landed but weren't really effective. He was just using his size to power them through Pac's guard and even though they snapped his head back they were not hurting him or slowing him down. Cotto, Clottey, and MArgo all used their uppercuts against Pac and combined the three of them were only able to win 1 round on all three official scorecards. Margo actually has devastating uppercuts with both hands and had little success hurting Pac with them.

    Like I said he is open but he takes away their effectiveness by smothering them. It's a form of defence.
     
  2. Leon

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    philla:

    I know you're a big pacfag, so maybe you can explain this to me.

    Why the hell did they teach emmanuel to stand the way he does inside of the pocket?

    I was watching some robert garcia tape the other day. He explains that you should drop your hands to around your chin on the inside, so they can partially block the uppeercuts and reduce their inertia. Rob also said you should angle your body to present a smaller target and have your chin cover your flank, Jamez Toney and Floyd do this on the inside. You don't ever see those two get caught with uppercuts.

    emmanuel and amir DO THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IS SUGGESTED. They SQUARE UP and KEEP THEIR HANDS HIGH WITH AN EARMUFF GUARD on the inside. Opponents uppercuts land and snap their heads back as if they're PED dispensers.
     
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    He doesn't take away their effectiveness. Clottey's uppercuts landed a fair bit, but he put no power in to them, that's why they weren't effective...not because Pacquiao was smothering them. Also, he didn't power through Pacquiao's guard...Pacquiao didn't have the defense against them.

    I can't actually remember Cotto using his uppercut at all. Maybe once or twice, but I can't remember him using it often.

    Margarito has very good uppercuts, and I remember on 1 or 2 occasions him landing powerful uppercuts on Pacquiao (1 in particular)...I don't remember Pacquiao smothering at all.
     
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    sarcasm :yep
     
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    I would explain something to you but your hate for Pac runs so deep through your veins due to your man-love from Floyd that your mind would just block it out.

    See how Clottey lands his uppercut on Cotto with full effect because he has enough room to gain some momentum...
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    Pac smothers the uppercut by staying in close and partially blocks it with forearms and elbows. He protects himself from getting cut above the eye by a headbutt on the inside by keeping his earmuffs up against his brow
     
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    Clottey had no power on his uppercuts because Pac took it away by smothering them. And Margarito has some of the best uppercuts in the game, landing one or two on Pac says nothing about him being easy to hit with uppercuts, same way Mosley landing a couple of right hands on Floyd does not mean he is easy to hit with a right hand.
     
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    I have not once said he is easy to hit with the uppercut, but he is very much open to it. This video shows the uppercut that Pacquiao does not smother (and was the same throughout the bout, you give him too much credit for)...and the right hand, which he is also open to.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfF6k6c6e0s&feature=related[/ame]

    Also, Clottey threw his waist/body in to shots on very, very few occasions...and not many of those landed. The rest were arm punches.
     
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    that's exactly what I'm talking about. Those two uppercuts that snap Pacquiao's head back look great but the fact is they are not very effective because Pac is smothering them. They land, but they are not very effective and Pac is not hurt by them. And the only reason they look like that is because Clottey is so much stronger than Pac. He leans up against CLottey, puts his earmuffs on and tucks his chin.

    and most of Clottey's right hands are eiter dodged or blocked.

    You can see in that video around the 2 min mark that when Clottey tries his uppercut when Pac is not leaning on him, Pac defends against it easily.
     
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    :lol::lol::rofl:rofl:patsch

    why does that look so photoshopped?
     
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    yeah his head was getting popped up with those uppercuts
     
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    They were not effective because they were uppercuts thrown from the arm. Compare them to the video you posted of Clottey v Cotto, and you should notice the difference. Pacquiao did not smother them, he threw a high guard up and didn't block/have any effect on them at all.
     
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    I still haven't seen him seriously hurt since 122..
     
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    they were thrown from the arm because Pac was smothering them, that's the whole point. That's a form of defence in itself.

    You think CLottey just decided to throw them from the arm? Pac gave him no choice.

    Look around the 2 min mark of your video and you see Pac easily defending against uppercuts that are not arm punches and not getting hit by them