So Basically Floyd Loses to Anyone 1995 on Down?

Featherfist Floyd simply doesn't have the cannons to earn their respect, whereas they all have power ranging from good (Leonard) to frickin devastating (Hearns).

If Pretty Boy struggled with Maidana, Duran would savage his ass like a pitbull. Leonard could box or slug and carried exceptional speed and skill. Hagler ... JFK, he's probably a lock for one of the top 3 MW in history. Hearns would hit Floyd so hard he'd wake up an old man. :verysad

GTFO here with this idea that Fluid could hang with these dudes. At best he might outpoint old Leonard or old Hagler, and even then I wouldn't favour him.

 

Marquez and Pacquiao are really featherweights who against all-time greats shouldn't be fighting anyone above 135 lbs.

Mayweather is really a lightweight who could compete against most ATG welterweights.

I'd make Mayweather the underdog against all of the fab 4, as well as make him an underdog vs Chavez, Whitaker, and Meldrick Taylor.

I'd put the odds at even money against the 135 lbs and below Hector Camacho.


That era was just full of talent that Mayweather's era just lacks.

.....You tell me who the best fighter Mayweather ever beat and how that fighter would do in the era of the 80's and 90's?

 

Mayweather is retired. Take this to the Classic forum.

 

80's top level guys could go 15 rounds, boxing and movin for all 3 minutes of every round.

How many records did The One break? This Gasnelo guy - a top p 4 pounder and can only fight in bursts for 90 seconds a round. In one of the biggest fights of the decade.

Look a the pace in Montreal in 1980. That 15 round , non stop combat is long gone.

Those guys could have banged on for days if they were getting Maidana's money. Maidana was gassed after 6 rounds both fights.

Older generational guys are held to a higher standard cos they performed at a higher standard than the guys today.

Floyd woulda been given hell by the raga muffin , never mind the fab 4

 

I know. I was making a point.

 

Im not saying he showed poor stamina. His best opponents did.

And Floyd never threw multiple combos or fought in any dog fights , so who knows how it would fare tested against guys who would certainly test it.

 

So is Joe Calzaghe. That's never stopped you before, LMMFAO.

 

What?

The weight isn't anywhere near as significant as the height, reach, strength and power.

Yes, Floyd could have competed, but he'd have been at a disadvantage because they were bigger and more powerful, as well as possessing ATG great skills themselves.

Floyd had height and reach advantages over a lot of his opponents. In fact he had a reach advantage over nearly all of his opponents.

Let's put things into perspective here:

Ricky Hatton was 5'7 and he was at his peak at LWW. His reach was 65"

Tommy Hearns was 6'1 and his reach was 78"

 

The problem in ****yzing and trying to estimate Mayweather's talent and just how good he was, is his competition level.

Duran the lightweight fought Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler, all ATG's naturally bigger than he is.

Leonard the fastest of the fab four fought the ferocious most all around talent of the four, Duran, plus he fought Hearns an assassin much taller with better reach than he. He fought Hagler, naturally bigger than he, arguably the best middleweight ever.
Again, all ATG's!

Hearns.........Fought atg's faster and stronger than he was.

Hagler.........Fought atg's faster than he, Leonard and Hearns. Hearns who punched harder than he.

ATG's fighting ATG's, that's how you decipher just how good your skillset really is.

A good fighter can fight an inferior fighter and come out looking like an ATG. This may or may not have happened to Mayweather, but I can say this. who in Mayweather's resume compares to Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler????
These guys fought eachother, who did Mayweather fight that we can truly guage how good his skillset was? Manny Pacquiao, the past it featherweight who had recently been brutally put to sleep by another featherweight Juan Manuel Marquez????


Are you understanding what I'm saying? Mayweather's era doesn't live up to the era of the 80's and 90's where there was more talented fighters who fought eachother when prime.

You cant fully rate the quality and skillset of a fighter unless he's putting it on display against quality, Mayweather's quality of opposition doesn't live up to the quality faced by the fab four, Chavez, or Whitaker, not by a long shot.

 

I've just told you that weight isn't as significant as height, reach, strength and power.

Yes, Floyd was sometimes significantly outweighed. But apart from Oscar, the guys who outweighed him didn't have bigger reaches, nor were they ATG's at the peak of their powers.

Floyd was only ever completely outsized in one of his fights, which was against Oscar.

Nobody Floyd has fought compares to a guy like Tommy at WW.

It's just ridiculous.

Nobody ever outboxed Tommy at the lower weights, not even Ray who is one of the greatest ever. Not even Benitez. But in your world a smaller man in Floyd could have done.

You make me laugh.

I'd love you to tell me how he'd have gotten past Tommy's jab with a 78" reach, and out pointed him over the distance.


Ray Robinson would have had a great chance of beating Floyd as he was just as skilled, just as fast, but with a lot more power.


No, he didn't just make Manny look like an idiot. Also, Manny was clearly injured.