So CONFUSED about the Beterbiev HYPE...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LiL Boosie, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    15,999
    8,288
    Apr 3, 2012
    That's just your ridiculous scorecard. It was a seesaw battle and close to even on the cards. It was even on one card.
     
  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,831
    2,100
    Sep 16, 2020
    Cos he is not from U.S?

    Even Gvozdyk for sure had more powerful punches than buterelo horsemeat.
    Buterelo is cool for U.S fanbase: cherry pick, clauses, horsemeat, vegas cards, short training camps for opponents.
    All fans yell: buterelo is their god. Buterelo who never fought in europe.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    15,999
    8,288
    Apr 3, 2012
    He was in his forties. Speak English.
     
  4. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,831
    2,100
    Sep 16, 2020
    No one cares about stevenson vs gvozdyk business scorecards.
    If someone is finished and more than 3 months in hospital, then laughable cards doesn't have value.

    I do know that not rarerly EE fighters should finish their opponents in distance and this is only one chance to win.
    Cards.:D
     
  5. BoxingFanMike

    BoxingFanMike Member Full Member

    275
    114
    Jul 13, 2014
    Gvovdyk was an excellent fighter. I am sad he retired but I think he realizes he could not beat Beterbiev. Regardless of scorecards he would have likely lost faster in a rematch. If you are going to stay in same division and you know you cannot beat the #1 guy makes sense to honourably retire if some opportunities present themselves rather than picking up an alphabet title and pretending to be champ.
    AB is a superb fighter. Far from a mindless power puncher. I do not understand the lack of respect he is getting. Pretty clear nobody wants to fight him. He is a wrecking machine. You probably won’t be the same after the fight. Nobody wants a career ending beating.
    That said he is aging and will eventually be beaten by Father Time. Then the “told you he was no good“ brigade will begin their braying jackass behaviour.
     
  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,828
    6,489
    Jul 1, 2010
    The same Austin Trout that Canelo arguably lost to?

    :lol:
     
    CST80 likes this.
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    15,999
    8,288
    Apr 3, 2012
    Oh look, you're mad now. Pulling out forced laughing emojis.

    You can't "arguably" lose with open scoring.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,831
    2,100
    Sep 16, 2020
    In english.
    Stevenson was actual WBC World Champion not cherry picked boxer for voluntary title defense. Common thing in western pro boxing.
    By your assumption Gvozdyk should had not to fight vs actual champ?

    I understand that it is boring thing in boxing to pick up old fighters.
    Gvozdyk does have valid excuse: he did not had World Title belt. Stevenson had. They fought. Plain and simple.


    About english, I do not feel scared cos you mark my english as bad etc alike.:D
    I'm not living in country with english language as official language and english for me if for fun not to earn for a living. :D
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2021
  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,403
    576
    Jul 24, 2005
    Fair enough.

    Cheers.
     
  10. ElJaguar

    ElJaguar Member Full Member

    272
    3
    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah, not really. Gvodzyk had an extensive amateur background but his only notable win as a pro was 41 year old Stevenson coming off a draw. There's really no comparison between their resumes, Beterbiev has one win over a reigning champ while Canelo has beaten numerous across 4 divisions including at light heavyweight. Beterbiev prioritized his amateur career, but even as a pro hasn't maneuvered his career with urgency despite getting up there in age. His career has been plagued by inactivity and he previously called off a fight with Joe Smith with his manager saying they wanted more time for such a dangerous opponent. And he dined out on his recent mandatory fight (who hung in there better than most people assumed), while Canelo busily got his out of the way in a quick return sandwiched between fights with undefeated champs.
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,831
    2,100
    Sep 16, 2020
    While buterelo had been dined with hometown referage, fights in backyard, dined with judges cards, opponents with short training camps, clauses for his opponents etc alike nice things.

    No problems, buterelo is cool to sell tickets and ppvs.
    No problems, anyone with brains does know that pro boxing is business and just a bit sport.
    Buterlelo fans compare his legacy with Foreman, Frazier, Ali and Patterson etc alike.
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,828
    6,489
    Jul 1, 2010
    I'm mocking you. I'm not laughing with you.

    Your own logic tripped you up.
     
  13. 15Hosier2004

    15Hosier2004 New Member Full Member

    33
    19
    Jul 8, 2020
    name me one guy who will beat him then?
     
  14. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,403
    576
    Jul 24, 2005
    I think Smith, who is strong as an ox and rather heavy handed himself, would be a very live dog against Beterbiev.
     
  15. 15Hosier2004

    15Hosier2004 New Member Full Member

    33
    19
    Jul 8, 2020
    i think its going to be a great fight but smith dont really have good defence either so its gonna be a cracker
     
    hoopsman likes this.