So, could Hrgovic win the Rumble if we swap him in for Ali?

slash · Sep 7, 2026 at 4:21 AM

Oddone said: ↑

The same people here cheering the new flavor of the week with recency bias said Joe Joyce would have beat Foreman, Ali etc.

Smh.

Hrgovic loses teeth in addition to the fight.
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No doubt.

Cojimar 1946 · Sep 7, 2026 at 9:55 PM

swagdelfadeel said: ↑

That's an interesting argument, considering you're conveniently leaving out the fact that Ron Lyle beat Earnie Shavers—the very guy you just named as one of the closest things to Foreman in that era.

So if the argument is that Foreman's victims generally struggled when they encountered someone with the attributes that made Foreman so dangerous, Lyle beating Shavers is a pretty obvious counterexample. And you're the one who brought Shavers into the discussion in the first place.

More importantly, what exactly are these supposedly unique "attributes" you're talking about? If you mean size, physical strength, punching power, and the ability to impose that physically, then you haven't established that Foreman's victims were somehow uniquely incapable of dealing with those qualities. You're simply asserting that they were.

And that's especially questionable when your own examples don't even support the premise consistently. Lyle beat Shavers, yet you omitted Lyle entirely while presenting Shavers as evidence for your argument.

If you want to argue that modern heavyweights would be uniquely equipped to handle Foreman, you need to actually demonstrate that—not just declare that anyone who possessed similar attributes would have beaten his opponents.
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Not modern heavyweights in general I would just tend to favor guys who have a proven record against power punchers

Someone like Dillian Whyte would be perfect for Foreman. Too easy to hit and without the chin to take his hits. Chisora would probably also get smashed for similar reasons.

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