So cutting 17 pounds means your weigh drained?

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  1. Ward tapped that ass and is the future P4P #1. accept it and move on. :deal
     
  2. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    How are you getting this all twisted? Dawson called Ward out and offered to come down to fight him. How in any way is that Ward's fault? If anything, that's Dawson's stupidity, for offering. Geez only in Boxing can a guy like Ward, accept another fighters challenge and terms of the challenge, shine like a star during the fight, and get completely **** on by the fans the next day like he did something wrong. Only thing Ward did, was say yes, and then sure when Chad offered to come down.

    It's amazing anyone would want to be a prizefighter for a living lol. With the way the fans treat the fighters, no matter if they win or lose or do not a thing wrong, it's truly unbelievable we don't see more crack-ups and sad endings.
     
  3. gyll

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    Of course it matters. If Ward were to cut to 160 to fight Sergio or Golovkin, would Ward be at his very best? I'm willing to stick my neck out and say he gets KOed by 3G at MW.

    A win over Dawson at 168 is nice. Could've been better if it was at 175. But still nice. That's all there is to it. People are either giving Ward too much credit or no credit at all. Why is it so hard to give him just the right amount?
     
  4. Money

    Money Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Alvarado cut 17 pounds and beat Mauricio Pastrana
     
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    Chad Dawson doesn’t anticipate any issues Friday when he steps on the scale in Oakland, Calif., for his super middleweight title fight Saturday night against Andre Ward.

    The 30-year-old Dawson hasn’t had to make the 168-pound limit in 6½ years, yet contends he feels “great” as his 12-round fight with Ward at Oracle Arena approaches (HBO; 9:45 p.m. EDT).

    “A lot of people don’t understand that I come into training camp at 178, 180 pounds,” Dawson said. “I came into this camp at 180 pounds. Like I told everybody before, it’s not hard for me to make the weight. I put another extra mile on my run. I’m dieting, and that’s something that I haven’t done in years, and that’s diet.

    “When I was fighting at light heavyweight, I was able to eat what I wanted and still go in and make the weight. So this camp, it was great. It just made me a little meaner, the fact that I can’t eat what I want and had to diet. So I’m ready for the weigh-in. I’ll jump on the scale at 167, probably, 168 pounds. And I’ll prove everybody wrong, the people who think I’m not going to make weight, that I’ll be drained and dehydrated. That’s not the case at all.”

    Dawson dropping a division is large part of why the skilled southpaw from New Haven, Conn., is as much as a 4-1 underdog, according to some handicappers. The WBC light heavyweight champion’s trainer, John Scully, believes oddsmakers, Ward fans and everyone else doubting Dawson (31-1, 17 KOs, 2 NC) because he moved down is making a mistake.

    “In other training camps, I didn’t monitor the food at all,” Scully said. “So I kind of assumed that he was dieting and eating the proper foods. And then, for this fight, I said, ‘Hey, are you sure you’re going to make [168]?’ He said, ‘Listen, all I’ve got to start to do is eating good.’ I didn’t realize that before, when we fought Hopkins, he beat Hopkins on a diet that I wouldn’t have chose.

    “So now that he’s eating the proper foods, after discussing it with [one of Dawson’s assistants], it appears that it’s not going to be a problem at all. I’ve read a lot of blogs and people that are really focused on this weight thing, but I really think it’s a misguided direction of energy because I just don’t think it’s an issue.”
     
  6. dranon

    dranon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree Ward handled him and will most likely be p4p no 1 someday. And now that I've stated that Dawson was weight drained , I will indeed move on.:hi:
     
  7. Relentless

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    Oh in that case de la hoya only cut 9 pounds to fight Pac and cotto only cut 7 pounds to fight malignaggi dumb uneducated corn bread eating fatherless crackwhore mother having ****.
     
  8. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    look at a dawson-pascal fight and look at dawson-ward. he was a shadow of his own.
     
  9. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    :lol::rofl

    I agree with you in that he was getting outboxed and it would happen at whatever weight they fought at, however, to suggest you couldn't see the signs of a drained dawson in there is laughable.

    So what if chad agreed to the bout at 168, this has nothing to do with if he was drained or not.

    Bottom line is, i have never seen Chad Dawson floored by such average power. There was not that much power in those punches this much was obvious. Coupled with the fact that we know Ward hasn't turned into some devastating puncher over night. **** me, i think at one point ward does him with a jab:roll:

    Bottom line is, andre ward beat a version of chad dawson that was at a disadvantage. his own doing yes but if weight wasn't an issue then why he ask for 170lb for ward to refuse?

    Ward beat up a version of dawson that other fighters would have smashed to bits given the chance. No great feat. Deal with it:smoke
     
  10. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Plain as day:good
     
  11. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course he was weight drained. Dawson has a lean body at 175. You think that 8 extra pounds he had to cut off was useless excess body mass? The comparison to Chavez is redundant.
     
  12. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More than numbers, it's the way you cut the weight. That said, in this case its all BS. I didn't see any problems with strength or stamina. I saw a problem of lack of boxing. Out of distance, wide punches, same attack over and over, etc... The reason Dawson lost that fight was very simple, he couldn't hit Ward. And his corner only advise was to dig deep.
     
  13. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if the weight had anything to do with it. It was his ****ing choice. So suck it up!!
     
  14. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some fighters can cut more weight than others, if it didn't have any effect on his performance he wouldn't have moved up in the first place.

    Chavez is a bad example since many think he is using banned PEDs to make weight.

    Petterson is also a known cheat.
     
  15. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Exactly this.