So dela Hoya used lidocaine against hopkins and creatine against Trinidad ...

AGREED! :good u got some of these fools like that El Mosquito guy already turning on Oscar...It's a shame too cuz they don't have any proof nor do they have Oscar's side of the story...AT LEAST MOST FANS LET MANNY GIVE HIS SIDE OF THE STORY BEFORE THEY STARTED JUDGING HIM..

AGREED ON WHAT RELENTLESS SAID TOO..NOTHIN N BOXING SURPRISES ME ANYMORE

 

Come on now SD...You need to slap yourself for thinking dude would be reasonable!:rofl

Seriously speaking, I wonder why this hasnt come to light before he retired...As Relentless said...You cant be surprised about it either!

 

Exactly.

It's amazing how easy it is to stir up suspicion about anybody. It doesn't take evidence, all it takes is an accusation, implication or a request and if it's not immediately answered or responded to, then *presto*, instant suspicion. Behold:

George W. Bush was an all star athlete in high school. And yet his records were never made public during that period. I think that clearly shows he was hiding something during that time, since to this day he refuses to release his high school records. What sort of performance enhancers was he using and who was helping him cover it up?

Nevermind the fact that every high school student's medical records are private or that nobody releases their high school medical records, that's beside the point. If Bush really were not on some kind of PED, he would have released his medical records.

Now, all you have to do is get someone to release this to the press, and get it in front of enough people, and just like that - The former President is suspected of being a high school drug cheat.

And then, you could easily start making tangential links. For example, Bush was GM of the Rangers while several players were on steroids. Clearly the reason he never identified them is because he's part of the cover up, being a drug cheat himself. Yet more damning evidence! And Bush already has a history of substance abuse, regarding alcohol and cocaine. So clearly he's shown a willingness to put substances in his body. He's demonstrated a willingness, even an eagerness to suppress evidence of wrongdoing by his administration in various lawsuits, which is unlikely to be behavior he suddenly picked up upon becoming president. It makes you wonder if his religious conversion decades later was because of his guilt at having cheated throughout high school to earn his reputation as a star athlete. The evidence doesn't look good!

It's so easy, it's pathetic...

 

I don't think DLH cheated to be honest....nor do I think PAC has. But given the stance they took and pushing the allegations that PAC is on soemthing it is funny to see how DLH reacts to the same unfair treatment slung his way....a taste of his own medicine and he doesn't like it.....no one would.

 

Who wants to buy some creatine?

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I'm a Manny Pacquiao supporter, but even I know creatine is a legal supplement no different than a protein shake.

 

I'm pretty sure Creatine is different than a protein shake (my cousin is a body builder and we used to discuss this kind of stuff). Creatine can give you increased energy and strength to train harder and longer and will improve recovery time. It is performance enhancing. Protein is used solely to gain mass, and has no performance enhancing effects off the hat (too much protein actually makes you feel lazy and tired).

 

If you guys recall... De La Hoya had checked with the NSAC before his fight with Hopkins. Oscar was cut by the guy who was cutting tape off of his hands and had to get stitches. Oscar obviously had to have a numbing shot in the area that they were putting the stitches. He could have easily called the fight off... but everything was legal and Oscar decided to just get stitched up and fight on.

 

Look at all of the jack asses acting like Creatine is steroids. lmao

 

Isn't man!?!? ISN'T IT!.


I heard just before the fight DLH went to a local high school to get his last fix of some creatine pills just before the fight.

I heard his dealer was a 15 year guy that weighs 125lbs and benches 135lbs.

 

This thread was fun once upon a time. Before things got "real" as the kids would say.

 

Who Cares? Creatine is not a big deal, infact when i took it i didnt notice much of a difference. I like Protein Better.

 

So dela Hoya used lidocaine against hopkins and creatine against Trinidad ...

... and those IV marks before the Pacquiao fight... blood doping??... There was no blood test after the fight.

 

LMAO. The tables have turned. What a circus!

 

What goes around comes around.