So, did Belfort turn out to be a worthy fight on Jones' championship legacy?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Haggis McJackass, Sep 24, 2012.


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  1. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    vitor was old, undertrained, out of his weightclass and had a rib injury. he had zero lightheavyweight fights to prepare or even deserve the shot. he KNEW his only shot was to submit him from his back with his rib injury. He had zero other weapons that could even contend with jones at the present time.

    I completely disagree with you, again. BS defence.

    Just like when they fed him to Anderson silva when he was injured and had a layoff for a year. Ruined his comeback completely. Thats why there is tuneup fights in boxing.

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  2. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    he had a broken hand too
     
    SouthpawSlayer, Sep 26, 2012
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  3. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He denied that he had a broken hand in an interview recently.
     
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  4. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    And his medical suspension is a mere 30 days, for a laceration above his eye. No mention of injured hands or ribs. If he broke his hand then he'd be suspended for at least a couple of months. :conf

    Anyway, he's a man. He signed the fight and got into the cage. That means that he was fit to fight. He did well, proved far more dangerous than expected, and doesn't need anyone to whine about his ribs or his hands for him. :bart :good

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    Haggis McJackass, Sep 26, 2012
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  5. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    :think

    You don't completely disagree with me. :nono This time last week I thought it was a crap fight. But I was entertained by it, and the moment where Vitor had him in the armbar was as dramatic and exciting as anything I've seen in a UFC cage this year. Because of that - the way the fight turned out, not the matchup itself - I changed my attitude about whether or not Vitor was a worthy challenger.

    Who held a gun to Vitor's head and forced him to sign the contract?

    He wanted the fight. He's a big boy, he's been around long enough. He doesn't need you to make excuses for him. Fifty percent of the participants in any fight end up losing it, and his opponent was Anderson ****ing Silva. If Vitor got wiped out in 20 seconds it wouldn't discredit him or prove anything other than Anderson Silva is the elite of the elite. :bart


    And anyway, you can disagree about the legitimacy of this title defence all you want. But according to the poll, you're in a minority. :yep

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    Haggis McJackass, Sep 26, 2012
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  6. dillinja

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    I don't see how you can change your mind about it being worthwhile for his legacy because he almost lost:huh
    It was a worthwhile fight to watch for entertainment but for jones career its hardly a fight to write home about.
     
    dillinja, Sep 27, 2012
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  7. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    your a bellend
     
    SouthpawSlayer, Sep 27, 2012
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  8. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Sure, it sounds strange on the face of it. :conf

    But Jones was in serious trouble there. Lots of top fighters have lost in that kind of situation. He just about had his arm snapped, and fought injured the rest of the fight.

    Because he kept his head, stayed calm and showed grit and toughness, I am more impressed with him as a fighter than I was before. Because we haven't seen him tested like that before. So it turned out as a significant fight for his legacy. Because it was the first time he was right at the edge of a devastating loss, and he was forced to dig deep and show his mettle.

    Comparatively, he steamrolled Rashad, Rampage and Machida with ease. No real difficulty for him at all, at any stage. So compared to Belfort all but snapping his arm, these are, in a way, less meaningful victories. Even though they were better challengers on paper, in the cage Belfort was the only one who ever managed to have Jones' corner shitting themselves. :lol:

    Therefore, it turns out that Belfort (who wasn't at his best, but is still no mug), will be a significant, meaningful fight on Jones' legacy. Jones still proved himself a far superior fighter, but Belfort tested him. Therefore, it was a meaningful fight. We can't say Belfort wasn't a worthy opponent, if he almost snapped the dominant champion's arm in the first minute of the fight. :conf

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    Haggis McJackass, Sep 27, 2012
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  9. dillinja

    dillinja Guest

    To me it doesn't work like that though, i can't make him up to be a better opponent because Jones didn't do as well against him as he could have done.
    Jones is a long limbed fighter and in reality is always open for potential sub attempts, this goes back to what i was speaking about the other day.
    These fights Jones is dominating have to be put into context, he is beating the best about and doing it well but the best about however alot of them are either not in peak form and past there best or are more striking based guys than subs guys.
     
    dillinja, Sep 27, 2012
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