So did Povetkin cheat or not?

^ This. This right here is the truth. In all the sports I follow, boxing has got to be the one with the most HATEFUL and BIASED fans

 

He's definitely a cheat if it's proven he took it after January, since he must have known by then it was banned. If he took it before January I still think he's a cheat on moral grounds because he was taking something he wasn't going to tell Wilder's team about until he was compelled. Mayweather tried to get fighters to voluntarily declare any drugs being taken in the interest of fair play, but this fell on deaf ears, and now look what's happened....cancelled fight.

 

Technically, no. According to anti doping federations' own rules. It's not about being a hater or a lover or whatever. I don't even like Povetkin, but according to the rules, he didn't break any.

His level was 0.07ng, which is way below the maximum amount allowed of 1 mg, and is compatible with someone who stopped taking it months ago, aka before it became illegal.

So, according to the agencies own rules, he's below the limit, stopped taking months ago, he's clear to go.

Beside, those kind of amounts don't influence one's performance

 

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I don't know about that, but i suppose they did. The early articles were talking about waiting for the b samples.

 

You mother****ers can't fight. You always need to be bigger than your opponent or you ****en cheat. Take your fake ass Western bull****, **** your ass and shove everything that you said up your ass.

 

No, Povetkin refused his right to have his B sample tested. Tbh I'm not sure that's particularly damning though, seeing as he's not claiming to have never taken the stuff.

 

No he didn't cheat. The level tested was residual and within limits, it was perfectly legal for the fight to go ahead but Wilder used it as an excuse to back out.

 

Agreed completely, and I know very little about Povetkin, so no favoritism. My interest in this development is resistance to liars and the delusional. That may not be an option for Wilder with his title/dignity intact. It depends what the WBC says.

 

Pretty much.

 

You're a funny guy. You amuse me.

That's all well and good except that he did test positive after testing negative.

The meldonium didn't take itself. He took it.

You can speculate on how it might have mysteriously appeared due to fat cells or some such, that that seems to indicate he wasn't training hard in early April, when he passed the tests, but started about a month out from the fight. Which is ludicrous.

It's a nice theory. You should write a paper on it. But I don't think you're an expert, just a guy who read something on the internet that sounds like a plausible excuse for a positive test after negative tests -- can you find some scientific data to back up that assertion that meldonium is known to test positive after negative tests from residual use?

The amount is not an issue. It's the fact that it appeared in his body after not previously appearing in three tests. You can make an excuse for how that MIGHT have happened, but it is more plausible that it was introduced after the last negative tests.

There's something called micro dosing, which could explain low levels, as could flushing and masking agents that didn't quite work as well as the PED-user would hope. All of that is speculation. What's not speculation is that he tested positive for a banned substance, and that he did so after testing negative three times.

If there are low levels in a cup of ****, that doesn't mean 7 nanograms is all he had in his body. I think even you would agree that he had a higher level in his body at some point, even if we disagree on when. So he would have the benefits of it during training, which is where you need the benefits -- it's not a magic pill that you take on the way into the ring and suddenly you become a cross between Hulk and Thor, it's something you take to increase stamina and that would be beneficial during training.

If a bodybuilder takes anabolic steroids in training and pumps his biceps up a extra 2 inches because of the benefits of the steroids, the muscles don't deflate if he flushes it out of his system or even when it cycles out of his system over time. He can keep pumping iron and keep the same muscle mass once he has gained it, or at least a significant portion of it.

If it's in his body during training, he gained some benefit from it. That's why the fight was called off by the WBC.