So..Do you guys think Kats is off the map now?

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Casa took it out of the hands of the judges and won the fight convincigly ... not dispute ... no controversy.

    Katsidis is going to have to work his way back up ... being that was his first title shot and him not beating anyone who accomplished anything in the division.

    I see him losing to Raiymkulov, Campbell, Julio Diaz, Acelino Freitas, Juan Diaz, and again to Casa.

    I think this guy is really going to have start back at square 1 ... he's young and in another 3 or 4 fights against stiff competition and stepping stones -- hopefully he wouldve learned and adjusted.
     
  2. JAM Killer

    JAM Killer Coming Through. Full Member

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    How does losing to a future hall of famer mean you are off the map?

    Get real, and try to understand boxing a little more.
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Katsidis fought a very tough fight but learned a lesson in getting careless. Casa sucked him into over agression and made him pay.

    Personally? I wouldnt have stopped it at that moment:nono Its certain that Katsidis was hurt, but still punching.

    Off the map?:lol: Please, thats ridiculous. He fought a great fight against the Champ. His style has inherent flaws and the long term doesnt look too bright, but he's still in the mix.
     
  4. Buddy La

    Buddy La Active Member Full Member

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    It's one loss, not the end of the world. He got reckless in the 10th - thinking it was the 11th, while his corner telling him it was the 8th wtf?. IMO, he was whooping the old man and caught with a good shot. He can get right back into the mix and do some damage.
     
  5. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    Round 1 was a culture shock for Kats. He was in the bright lights and got hit with a couple punches that dropped him twice early. If the judges had him ahead of Casa going into the 10th, then they were bought. I'm glad Casa took the judging out of the equation by KOing this guy. Kellerman was dead on when he brought up the comparasons to Gatti. Kats will be great to watch, bleeds if you breathe on him wrong, and is basically a human punching bag. His brawling style is entertaining, but overall he has limited skills. Kats may want to go back to the drawing board and think about not brawling b/c that will shorten his career and it does nothing for him when his opponent is thinking. Kats got his confidence up and got lured into that shot from Casa.
     
  6. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Emphatically - NO. A fighter like Katisdis will never be "off the map". He is far too entertaining to watch and gives his all every time out. When people talk about Katsidis being the next Gatti - they are partially correct - he is the first Katsidis "The Great".
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

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    Put together so perfectly ... :good
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    Anyone who keeps responding just check out the fight then read D's post and you should find your answer.

    He won't be off the map but to take him serious as a person who can be a serious threat is ridiculous. He will be a solid voluntary defense for one of the champions who wants to win and look good doing it.

    Hell Katsidis got dropped by Casa who last dropped someone was Chico a few years back.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Two of the most exciting fights you will ever see occured in Katsidiz's last 2 fights. This guy is all heart. He's fun to watch and he would've beat Casamayor had he just stayed on his feet for the 12 rounds.
     
  10. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Katsidis has got to learn how to slip punches on the way in, how to weave and feint he comes straight in and wont fare well against good fighters until he corrects this .
     
  11. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    if you rewatch the fight, Casa was baiting Katz into that rush style. Watch round 8 or so when Katz started putting the pressure on and got caught with the same punch that would put him out in the 10th. Like I said before, Katz needs to go back to the drawing board after this one... One thing that bothers me is how Katz is praised as an 'exciting' fighter. :-( Forgive me if i don't find find a human punching bag exciting. Katz is a limited fighter and his biggest asset is his heart. No overwhelming boxing skill set. No granite chin... too easy to hit... Cuts way too easy... They call those type of fighters, club fighters. Gatti and Katz belong in that category as of now.. Katz is still young, so he could develop into something more than the club fighter with heart... Gatti is unfortunately stuck there.:!:
     
  12. rexobse

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    Kats was already at the edge of the map when his face was re-arranged by unknown boxer Czar Amonsot.
     
  13. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    No.

    I think there will be many guys wanting to see him fight in the future. He yields such an entertaining style that brings non boxing fans to the sport. he can only be good for boxing imo.
     
  14. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    I cant believe all the haters on ESB. I bet none of you have ever been near a boxing ring let alone in one. So Katsidis lost, its happened to the best and will continue to happen but dont think that for one minute it means that as soon as a guy loses he is finished or exposed. Katsidis fought like a warrior and should be respected for it. Most of you whinge when a fight isnt exciting enough and then as soon as a fighter comes out and gives it his all and puts on a show for the fans he gets called a hype job because he lost.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :deal :deal :deal