So Fitzsimmons gets destroyed 2x by Jeffries yet he has a shot vs Louis and Marciano?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Or did he just have a wider rib cage and wing span? Playing the stats game you could find a WW who had a 'considerably bigger upper body than Marciano's' it doesn't mean it was as mucularly thick or strong up top or through his chain
     
  2. Ylem

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    it almost dosnt seem logical that marciano weighed 20 lbs more.

    i agree with the above, its probly all the breathing exercises that fitzsimmons would do that made his chest so big.

    48 inches, but a good bit of that is probly just hot air.

    but still fitz had bigger thighs, waist, even his biceps were alittle bigger then marcianos......per

    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/rockiron.html

    and even a good 7 more inches of reach.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I agree, measurements only tell us size.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    If the tale of the tape is correct, I for one have a hard time believing Fitz was only 165 pounds. In the second fight, I believe Jeffries simply laughed at Fitz weight saying if he's 170, put me down for 144. Something like that.

    Fitz had very little body fat. He was a shrink wrapped pound for pound type of fighter.
     
  5. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well looking at the measurements he was quite lanky with little mass on his legs and arms with all his weight on his core and back giving the appearence that he was much bigger then he actually weighed.

    though it is fitz's own book so the measurements might be skewed alittle, but i dont doubt he was 165-167 ish.
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here are measurements for Fitz and Jeff Compiled
    from Official Weighing-in Records, and reprinted in
    the 1957 Ring Record Book:

    --------------Fitz----------------Jeff
    Height--------5ft. 10-1/2 in.------6ft. 1-1/2in.
    Weight-------172 lbs.-------------225 lbs.
    Chest, Nor.---41 in.---------------43 in.
    Chest, Exp.---44 in.---------------48-1/2 in.
    Waist---------32 in.---------------35 in.
    Biceps--------12 in.---------------16 in.
    Neck---------15 in.---------------18-1/4 in.
    Wrist---------7-1/2in.-------------7-3/4 in.
    Calf----------13-1/2 in.------------17 in.
    Ankle---------8-1/4 in.-------------10 in.
    Thigh---------20 in.----------------25 in.
    Fist-----------12-1/2 in.------------13-1/2 in.
    Forearm-------11-1/2 in.------------13-1/2 in.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Obviously Fitz had a huge upper back, that would account for a large chest measurement.

    None of which holds has even a slightest relevance to his chances in a fight with anyone.

    Obviously it's of interest to his suit tailor only !
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    The implication of Jeffries' statement is what ?
    That Fitz is as heavy - or almost as heavy - as himself ??
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Fitz had a goose neck and pencil legs. Everyone knows most of the power comes from the legs. Marciano had thick catcher powerful legs. Fitz looked frail and skinny compared to Marciano.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Fitz was a skinny, frail guy. Some reports had him weighing below 160lb vs corbett. He often weighed under 160lb. He was skinny man. Marciano, in comparison, was cutting down from well over 200lb. Marciano was a much bigger man than fitz.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Louis would destroy any standup stationary 165lb fighter who keeps his hands by his waist
     
  12. mcvey

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    Marciano's chest was 40 inches, an inch smaller than Fitz's. Fitz had skinny legs but his arms ,particularly his fore arms were very respectable.


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  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Skinny Legs in the heavyweight division = Disaster

    Goose Neck = Lack of ability to take a big punch
     
  14. mcvey

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    Dempsey had comparatively skinny legs.

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    Another pair of sticks
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    And his featherweight counter part
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    Punchers come in all shapes and sizes.
     
  15. Valane

    Valane Active Member Full Member

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    Robinson, Young Lewis, Jackson, the list goes on.

    Fitz had an athletic build.