So Fitzsimmons gets destroyed 2x by Jeffries yet he has a shot vs Louis and Marciano?

Of course ! You can clearly see there isnt more than an ounce between them.

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atschatschatsch Jeffries arm is as big as Fitz's leg.:rofl

 

Probably suggesting Fitz was a fair bit heavier and using the 167lb weight as mind games?

 

Well put.

 

Lovely bit of cloth!

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Fitzsimmons was notorious for understating his weight.

Presumably he did this to lull his oponents into underestimating him.

 

I'd pick Liston to beat Fitz. Does that make you feel better? :hey

 

I dont get it.

These comparisons surprise me greatly, despite the stories of Fitz being a heavyweight body on a lightweights legs. I had always just assumed these stories to be exagerated.

I originally assumed that it was only his reach which was longer. We now hear that fitz has bigger arms, waist, Upper body etc. Well i dont really know because no one has posted Marcianos stats but it has certainly been suggested by others that Fitz has the bigger upper body, and it may only be lower legs that is bigger (something i would have thought is doubtful), but anyway the whole point is all of a sudden, it doesnt matter because Marciano has lower leg size which is suddenly all important and where you get your power from? And Marciano is bigger because he ballooned up to over 200lbs when not in training.

I really just dont understand the reasoning behind this line of thinking. Are you saying that it is weight only and not size that is important?

 

Fitzsimmons was weighed on a spring balance the day of his fight with Corbett he scaled 157lbs.
Bob showing his pins off.

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Here they are for Rocky, according to the same 1957 Ring Record Book from which I gave the measurements for Fitz and Jeff:

Height------5'11"
Weight------184 lbs.
Reach-------68"
Chest, Nor.--39"
Chest, Exp.--42"
Waist--------32"
Biceps-------14"
Neck--------16-3/4"
Wrist--------7-1/2"
Calf---------14-3/4"
Ankle--------10"
Thigh--------22"
Fist----------11-1/2"
Forearm------12"

 

I agree, rocky is clearly more sexually attractive.

......Wait.

 

How come so many big punchers have skinny legs then ?:huh
Joe Choynski with Johnson standing behind him.
Jeffries ,Johnson,Fitzsimmons, and Corbett, named Choynski as the hardest hitter they faced.

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--------------Fitz----------------Jeff
Height--------5ft. 10-1/2 in.------6ft. 1-1/2in......5 11
Weight-------172 lbs.-------------225 lbs............184
Chest, Nor.---41 in.---------------43 in................39
Chest, Exp.---44 in.---------------48-1/2 in...........42
Waist---------32 in.---------------35 in................32
Biceps--------12 in.---------------16 in.................14
Neck---------15 in.---------------18-1/4 in............16 3/4
Wrist---------7-1/2in.-------------7-3/4 in..............7 1/2
Calf----------13-1/2 in.------------17 in................14 3/4
Ankle---------8-1/4 in.-------------10 in................10
Thigh---------20 in.----------------25 in................22
Fist-----------12-1/2 in.------------13-1/2 in..........11 1/2
Forearm-------11-1/2 in.------------13-1/2 in..........12
Reach--------- 71 1/2....................76 1/2? ............68

So, looking at the tale, Fitz has reach, but there is very little in ever thing except calf's and ankle (although Rocky is ever so slightly bigger in most areas). Certainly not the physical mismatch you expect. And Jeffries pretty much dwarfs both of them in all areas except ankle size.