So, Floyd Fans: Who Do You Have Beating Floyd at Welter in Boxing History

Arguello I was a great win for Pryor and the Cervantes win wasn't half bad either, albeit Cervantes was past his prime.

It wasn't about big punches with Pryor, rather a boat load of them from every concievable angle. He was a tremendous swarmer and I struggle to see how Mayweather would be able to keep him off. Because Mayweather couldn't keep Pryor off, he'd be forced to fight at a much faster pace than he likes, and Pryor would win in that type of battle.

 

He got his ass kicked on the inside in the first fight, which is where the majority of Castillo's landed punches came from. You know, the larger amount of punches landed between the two?

 

hatton didn't control **** what fight were you watching and castillo was at 135/duran was a god at lightweight at 147 please mayweather would box his ears off

 

Woah oah woah. Hatton controlled the distance? Absolutely not. Hatton ran in, tried to punch, couldnt, got clocked by a straight right and then they clinched. Hatton chose the range for the fight, but this was clearly because Floyd was content to just hit Hatton coming in rather than getting on his toes and keeping the fight on the outside.

Floyd at times did beat Castillo on the inside, but it was clear he would have rather kept the fight on the outside. Thats why he used the jab so much. But the first fight wasn't really fought on the inside. Castillo did his good work while mauling Floyd and pressing him into the ropes. There wasn't much real in fighting going on.

Oh and heres another welterweight I think that could beat Floyd. Vernon Forrest when healthy had a wonderful jab. Floyd's defense is 10x better than Mosley's, but if the Forrest that beat Mosley fought Floyd I think he could have won a decision.

 

atsch Why don't you just DISQUALIFY these guys Brooklyn? I understand if you're trying to be reasonable, but if you're this off base I just don't see the point in arguing.

You need to be Leonard or Hearns special to beat Floyd at WW? Why? What makes you think that? Because he beat a natural JWW in Hatton, one who proved ineffective against a B level fighter in Collazo? Because he beat the B- level, consistently inconsistent Zab Judah after struggling for 4 rounds? Because he beat Carlos Baldomir while having to fight off the backfoot against a feather-fisted puncher? Seriously, what the hell has he done at 147 that makes you think he's that difficult to beat? An old, past prime DLH pushed him close, and you guys don't think a prime one(or Forrest, or Quartey for that matter) could beat him? Floyd is nowhere near the fighter at 147 that he was at 130. You people need to realize that.

He was a special fighter at his best. He's not a special 147 pounder.

 

Hatton, due to his footspeed, forced Mayweather to fight with him in close. Mayweather landed the cleaner shots throughout, but there's absolutely no denying that Hatton closed the distance.

147? A motivated Duran beat the hell out of hall of famer Carlos Palomino and decisevely beat Sugar Ray Leonard. It was after the 'No Mas' fight, which came in part because of the draining, where he became inconsistent and really lacked motivation.

 

I think it's more of a statement to reply with a long, intimidating, thought out post.

 

I think Mayweather's jab to the body would be effective against Pryor. Consider that Pryo is like 5'6", Mayweather could probably keep him on the outside using either of his jabs, or he could fight him like he did Hatton. Straight right, clinch. Straight right, clinch.

 

:-( Watch the fight again. When Floyd was able to keep the fight in the center of the ring he was golden, when he got to the ropes is where Castillo did his damage, which wasnt even damage so much as landing on Floyds shoulders and elbows. Watch the fight again and Floyd is clearly landing the punches the head, while Castillo is landing punches to the body, while Floyds look more accurate its hard to judge Castillo's punches whether they are landing or not since more are to the body and the judges probably scored the way they did for this precise reason. Mayweather did not look hurt when Castillo was going to the body which leads me to believe he wasnt landing. I suggest you watch the championship rounds when Floyd feels a sense of urgency and Castillo and Floyd go to the middle and Floyd lands some flush left hooks.

 

mayweather is a much better defensive fighter than leanard/and all hatton did was grab and hold//he landed maybe 2 clean shots the entire fight,it was a shut out victory

 

A jab to the body wouldn't allow Mayweather to control the distance against Pryor. Alexis Arguello's biggest bombs couldn't keep Pryor off of him. Pryor could counter a jab to the body with a right hand.

If he fought Pryor like he did against Hatton, he'd be in for a rough night.

 

Mayweather's better defensively because he fights in more of a safety first manner. Watch Leonard against Benitez. That was a phenominal display of defense on Leonard's part. Mayweather would be forced to fight against Duran and would get hit more than ever because 1) he isn't the mover Leonard was at 147 and 2) he doesn't have the power of Leonard to really grab Duran's full respect.

I realize Hatton didn't land anything really effective, but if you allow him to get close, that spells trouble against Duran who was ten times the infighter Hatton is.

 

I've enjoyed some of the responses in this thread.

 

oh yea offensively leonard was the man don't get me wrong. i respect your opinion but i just see mayweather boxing durans ears off and mayweather hits harder than most think oscar has a great chin and was wobbled by money may at 154

 

Not just to the body. Pryor couldn't counter punch Floyd though. His jabs are too fast, and Pryor is too small. His straight rights are too unexpected. I think Pryor's size is what makes it a hard fight for him to win. I know he was able to beat Arguello (very impressively at that), but Floyd's defense is much better than Arguello for one thing (even if Pryor did get on the inside), and Floyd would be much more effective at keeping Pryor at range.