So, floyd might come back for pac, but not for margarito????

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  1. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    Pac should fight Hatton instead.

    Floyd is a great fighter, but no champion...only a title winner.

    He should not be rewarded for his pattern of winning, or changing weight classes and retiring, only to avoid fights that he doesn't want or care about.

    Hatton keeps fighting, and deserves the mega fight with Pac.

    Floyd only fights who he wants to, not conduct fitting of a champion.

    Pac vs Hatton
    Floyd vs Margo

    Those are fights people want to see.

    ...and dude is wrong about Margo's unfinished business with Williams.

    Williams already finished it.
     
  2. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    True enough,but i'll reiterate;money is a huge factor,but avoiding the pain that Margarito brings to the table is just as significant.
    Thankfully for Floyd there are plenty of smokescreens to utilise....'Pac is the bigger name'(valid)...'Margarito should first settle his other business with Santos and PW'(absurd)

    I object to this ludicrous notion that Floyd's avoidance of the top WW's is strictly business related.He wouldnt fight Margo or PW for the same money he got for Hatton.
    No way.
     
  3. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Mayweather is coming back to fight the best fighter in the world!! not a fighter who has 1 big win in Margarito.
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    Pac v PBF is by far the bigger fight IMO. They are both ATGs, whereas Margarito is not. Although Margarito is a superb fighter, PBF v Margo is not the superfight to bring PBF out of retirement. If Floyd had the balls to fight Margarito, he would have done it already, but I think he sees Margo as too much risk for too little reward, considering the size and strength advantages Margo holds over him (I think PBF would beat him, but that doesn't mean it would be an easy night for Mayweather, and I think Mayweather knows it, hence his lack of interest).

    PBF will think Pac is the easier option (he will be proved wrong if they get it on IMO), but more importantly, Pac v PBF will be the biggest superfight since Hagler-Leonard in '87 or Whitaker-Chavez in '93. The choice is a no contest for Floyd.
     
  5. Suge Green

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    I don't think so...Manny may have the world's Asian populations on lock...but FLOYD's star power doesn't approach him anywhere on the planet...not even the US.

    Has a crowd EVER packed an arena to cheer on PBF...???

    At LEAST half the people in attendance always want to see him lose. He's just not a likeable guy, or a fighting champion....he's still a great fighter though.
     
  6. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyds waiting on that HUGE number to be thrown at him is all.. He's not gonna fight for anything under 25 million at this point. everyone should know this by now
     
  7. Scar

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    That's because you have no idea what was going on before his fight with Judah. His fight with Judah was already signed even before he fought Baldomir and a date was already set. Judah losing to his mandatory/tune-up is something only Judah can be blamed for, Mayweather did try to change that fight to a fight with Baldomir but it was a hopeless case at that point, they even tried to get Margarito in there but sadly couldn't, Bob Arum should confirm this too in a quick google search about what was going on during the time IF you weren't here to see it. Margarito was also booked to fight Maneul Gomez on PPV and Baldomir wanted one more fight before he's ready, that also included more money. According to Arum since the Judah fight was already planned/set they went on with it anyway as there was nothing better to replace an already signed deal.

    About DLH asking Mosley to avenge his loss this is hilarious, Mosley at the time compared to Margarito right now don't even come close. For someone in Margarito's status who only had one major win his entire career coming up recently he's NOT in Mosley's league, not as a NAME in boxing that is. This is also ironic you mention Mosley/DLH II, a fight where DLH was trying to do what he adviced Margarito to, avenge a loss.
     
  8. mking

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    One things for sure If floyd fights Pac and wins, including Margo winning his fights, what is floyd gonna do retire again to avoid him. He cant hide this time.
     
  9. boxeo#1

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    :huh:patsch at everyone who thinks Floyd gets beat up by Margo. Styles make fights. He'll make Margo look like a fool.
    Pac brings way more dollars and is much more marketable.
     
  10. Ilesey

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    There are a few fights out there for Floyd. Williams, Margarito, Cotto, Pacman. At this point in time I'd like to see him fight Manny or Paul Williams.
     
  11. boxeo#1

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    I'd love to see him fight all of them.

    But Pac is the man that brings the most money because it's the most marketable.

    Considering ''Money'' is Floyds nickname his choice makes sense. Even though he (Floyd) is a spoiled ***** for not fighting (one of) the other guys and what the fans want to see.

    Peace
     
  12. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    I know it was complicated.Im not new to the sport.
    There are plenty of reasons for Floyd not to fight Margarito(or PW),but this 'go back and avenge' nonsense is feeble,but masquerades as noble and worthy,which really grates.As if Floyd and his fans give a **** about the integrity of the Sport.

    If a red hot fight presents itself(eg,Floyd-Margo after he beat Cotto)in a sport that desperately needs them,instead of striking while the irons hot, get the combatants to go and avenge their losses in lesser fights?.....delaying or sabotaging the megafights that people are craving?
    Absurd.
    just make the red hot fight while its still redhot.The sport needs them and
    Things can go wrong(eg,Baldo-Judah)

    If Margarito avenges the PW loss,he still wouldnt get the Floyd fight,so lets also forget that notion,though why he couldnt avenge the PW fight after Floyd is lost on me.:huh
     
  13. boxeo#1

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    Hmm I don´t see Floyd ko´ing Pacman.. but I do see him winning a decision. Just too elusive.
     
  14. surreal deal

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    Utter bollocks....Floyd will NEVER take that fight,so how can it play out like that?
    Sorry,but i refuse to use your vivid imagination as a way of determining a fights outcome.
    Call me old-school,but I still think the best method is getting the 2 guys in the ring together and letting them settle it themselves.
    Im funny like that.Picking a winner through no more than fanboy speculation,just doesnt do it for me.
    I like them to actually FIGHT each other.
    Crazy i know.
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets get one thing straight that some so called boxing fan seem to miss every time when touching this issue. IF Margarito were too some how become a house hold name that generated big pay days he would have no issue with big names lining up to fight him. Margarito supposedly being feared fighter has nothing to do with any thing, for example: Mike Tyson of the early 80s was the most fearsome, ferocious fighter of that time and yet he had every fighter from bums, the highly ranked, the old and retired, all got in-line to fight Mike in spite of the fact they were in for a world of serious hurt, Why because mike generated a big audience world wide, and a fight with meant a fat bottom line win or lose you got paid well, and the exposure was phenomenal back then, hey who doesn't remember Jose Ribalta.. My point is margarito does not command that type of audience the only fighter to come close were Oscar, Hatton and Pac, the day Margarito is able to generate such attention is the day his dome will be hunted, until then fears has nothing to do with it.