So GGG was offered 40% & turned it down!!! (20+ Mil with PPV upside!)

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  1. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's correct financially.

    But Canelo is getting quite a bit of heat for those failed tests, he's a proud man and doesn't like that, so he does actually want to fight Golovkin.
     
  2. IsaL

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    It seems that way doesn't it. Abel and Loeffler seem like they are a couple of weasels and they are bringing GGG along with them.
     
  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "...every Middleweight want a shot at Canelo. In fact, I will say 90% of them will let his juice to grill to get a shot at him."
    Obviously...Clenello is an easier fight & more money DOH!
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Very harsh post but true.

    LOL at comp time. Every time I get banned I know its because I made a mod look like an idiot and it pissed them off since I'm rarely ever disrespectful to most posters, very rarely have disrespected fighters, and follow the forum rules.

    I was a huge on GGG around 2013 when he really started getting pushed by HBO, even bought into the hype, but his level of opposition just never seemed to get better and when he refused to challenge himself by fighting Ward he kind of lost me and it was all down hill from that because of all the inconsistencies and coddling.

    Loefller and Sanchez really ****ed up GGG, and HBO didn't help by trying to compare him to Mike Tyson, and tell us he was this monster, yet the monster never stepped up. Where he definitely lost me is when he wanted 4-5 X the amount of monet he had ever earned for a single fight to accept the Canelo fight, that's when I knew he was 100% not about legacy and had become a weasel like Sanchez and Loeffler.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    What does "Not good" mean? Canelo a super star and proven draw accepted $5 million dollars to Cotto's $15 million, once could say that was "Not a good offer", but Canelo did what he had to do to be in the position he is now.

    Canelo is exemplarily in more ways than one, while not perfect, and even foolish for the positive tests, he fights anyone and on his way up Money was not an issue, and even now he pays fighters more than what they are really worth.

    GGG needs to only fight the best since he is "the MW champion", Vanes type opponents are inexcusable, Canelo can get away with a fighting a tune up to shake off the ring rust, but knowing Canelo he'll probably fight Jacobs, Saunders, or the #4 ranked WBO, and #6 ranked WBC O'Sullivan if Jacobs asks for too much.
     
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  6. Code

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    I always saw the guy for who he was. He was a good fighter with a great management behind him. If the guy was what his fans and management claim he was, he would have stopped Canelo and decisively beaten Jacobs whom I had his losing to on the scorecard. AGAIN, I repeat,
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    and Jacobs.
    People always complained that Bernard Hopkins fought a bunch of Middleweights. One great thing about Hopkins is that when he did fight these small guys, whom were great fighters by the way, he knocked them out like a great fighter fighting a little great fighter is supposed to.
    For years when his defensive deficiency was highlighted, his fans affirmed that he was some slick capable boxer who neglected defense in order to please the fans.
    He claimed that he would fight anyone from 154-168. Which was a bunch of BS, as many fighters called him out yet he took the easy route while the media continued to hip unwarranted accolades on him.
    Look at his credentials. There is no one in his resume that you can point to me and say, he's definitely a first ballot hall of famer.
    Guess Golovkin bought the hype sold to him by HBO and his disillusion fans and thought he was bigger than what he is. Glad Canelo had to straighten him out.
     
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  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Canelo might fight Spike:

    When GGG might fight Spike:

     
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  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was the guarantee, apparently the final split including PPV money was 55-45 in Cotto's favour.

    20% isn't that great for Jacobs, certainly he's going to ask for more. He got over 40% against Golovkin, and is pretty well established at MW by now. He's shown himself to be elite, at the very least he has the leverage to get 25%.

    Canelo does not need a tune-up, he was perfectly willing to fight GGG in September without one. A top p4p fighter like Canelo and the biggest star in the sport has exactly the same responsibility to fight good opponents as "the MW champion" GGG.

    When you are the face of the sport and high up on the p4p list you cannot let over a year go by fighting just one opponent who isn't even elite, like Spike. The only way Canelo can justify a tune-up is if he also schedules a fight in December against a top opponent.

    Both GGG and Canelo must face good opponents this year in my books, and undoubtedly the great majority of journalists and fans agree on that.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Err sorry my friend you are wrong on one point. Mexico has DISOWNED Clenelo. As he foolishly said before handing over the WBC belt like a wussy " Mexican fighters FIGHT we don't **** around " As my friend Jose said " He's right Mexicans FIGHT!! So obviously he aint Mexican"
     
  10. IsaL

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    These are the options Canelo's potential opponents have; They can accept their biggest payday and a shot at super stardom if they beat him, or they can continue fighting for their current worth and be content with their level of popularity.

    When Canelo fought Floyd Mayweather, Canelo's guarantee was $5 million compared to Maywetaher 41 million. Canelo accepted the terms because he knew it was an opportunity of a life time that would pay off in the long run. In other words,Canelo paid his dues and benefited greatly, if other fighters are confident they can beat or at the very least look good against Canelo they should fight him, they would likely still be making their biggest payday.

    Also, if Jacobs declined the Canelo fight, O'Sullivan is ranked #4 and #6 by the WBO and WBC, so it just positions Canelo to earn a shot and climb the rankings where he isn't even currently ranked.
     
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  11. Tomato(e) Can

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    So how did Clenelo lose to a media creation and hype job? And why did he feel the need to juice for the rematch?

    Why is Golovkin still undefeated? Hype jobs don't stay undefeated.
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    But the boxing public all KNOW GGG beat Ginger Nutts
    but Bennett, the NSAC & Vegas boxing illegally made the fight a "DRAW" ???? They also know Ginger was the one that caused the May fight to be cancelled by POPPING DIRTY !!!! The boxing world KNOW Clenelo:pipiGGG & it aint even close
     
  13. C.J.

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    Question mr Einstein ???
    I wonder why Floyd the Roid didn't offer the same deal to GGG ???? Easy he knew Clenelo was all hype but GGG could DESTROY him
     
  14. IsaL

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    GGG is a 8 year champ and career MW, and as a reigning champion should focus on fighting the best fighters in his division as he doesn't need the experience, nor does he need to acclimate, he should not be fighting Jr MWs and WWs, and no hopers. Canelo is a contender for the ABC titles, has been off for one year, has only had one fight at the 160 limit, and is coming of knee surgery. Fighting a top 10 guy is not to shabby well all things considered.
     
  15. BCS8

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    Yeah, right on man. He could fight a construction worker as a tune up. Seems legit.

    No.

    Wait, construction workers have muscles. Canelo could fight an accountant. Yeah. Because, he's been off his cycles, he had a bad hair day and he's missing those mutant meat tacos. He has to acclimatize to a ped-free diet, y'see?