So headbutting Floyd and causing a split in lip is cool then?

Floyd forgave him. Then he punished him.

Two step process.

 

Most reasonable people seem to agree both fighters bear some responsibility for that crappy ending to a fight. Only difference seems to be FLoyd fans want to absolve him of any wrong doing!

 

Fact is Ortiz admitted to doing wrong like a man and tried to apologize like a man. Floyd faked like he was going to accept his apology then sucker punched him twice like a complete immature lowlife twat. There is a huge difference in the way the two handled things. Ortiz isn't innocent but he isn't at fault. You Floyd nutthuggers can't understand because you have the same childish attitude as Floyd does.

 

In Floyds mind 2 wrongs make a right.

 

I would expect a club fighter to pull a stunt like that not an elite fighter!

 

Look what Ward did. Not a split lip, but open gashes around the head of Kessler.

What is your opinion about that?

 

Cut this kiss and make up **** I continue to see in boxing, it wasn't so long ago people were starting to think fights were fixed with all this touching gloves bull****, just look back to pac v mosley.

Floyd showed no sportsmanship for what he did and after what ortiz did can you blame him?

 

**** you. He jumped in with his head and then goes right into apologizing. Its like someone sucker punching you and then saying they are sorry. Dont work that way.

 

Ortiz dumb on so many levels. On top of everything else anybody who looks at ref after getting "sucker punched" while the ref is looking at who knows what and let Floyd load up for another shot has issues. Ortiz quit when he butted like that anyway.

 

Headbutt couldve split his eye open. What then?

 

Having just woken up and watched the fight. I don't really have any issues with any of it. Its not the ideal way for a fight to end, but not all fights end in an ideal way just as no sport always ends the ideal way (Note - Usain Bolt 100m world championship final).

The ony points I would make are;

1.) Ortiz clearly tried to headbut Mayweather. *Not for the first time*. This is because he was getting frustrated at not finding the target when he had him on the ropes and probably in an effort to rile Mayweather up.

Headbutting is in all circumstances against the rules.

The first thing I thought was as Joeaverage said, look at the Kessler Ward fight. You don't have to think very hard to see the damage and effects on a fight of a headbut. These happen accidentally by nature, but such clear and deliberate attempts to headbut your opponent is not acceptable.

2.) Just because Ortiz then goes and apologises immediately after trying to headbut Mayweather does not mean anything. Do you actually think Ortiz was sorry in the slightest? Unlikely. Everyone that plays sport will apologise after they foul their opponent and get caught for it. He didn't want a point taken from him and he realised he looked bad for such a deliberate headbut.

An headbut and an apology means the exact same thing and carries the exact same risk of damage (illegal) as a headbut without an apology. If I was the opponent that got headbutted I would be equally annoyed regardless.

In addition to this, to Nuke.. Ortiz did not apoligise like a man. He came out in the post fight interview and said the headbut was not deliberate. You know as well as I do and everyone else does, that that is as deliberate a headbut as I ever have seen. So if he wanted to be honest about it, he would not have claimed it to be accidental.

3.) Following the break I cannot see how there is any discrepancy about this. Cortez clearly motions the fighters to carry on. Its staring you directly in the face if you watch the video

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At 3.22 (start at 3.20) Joe cortez motions them together and says "Lets Go". I have nothing more to say about that. It simply happened that way. There is no argument.

"Lets Go" means - *You can continue to fight*

I don't know what Ortiz was doing, but for the next 5 seconds he just wanders up to floyd with his hands down and a stupid expression on his face. The ref has said continue to fight, floyd clearly has his hands up and is ready to fight, yet ortiz doesnt want to start fighting yet. Well that is his choice.

Look at it this way. What if Ortiz walked up to mayweather acting like he was going to apologise, mayweather decides to allow him, and then rather than apologising Ortiz decides to punch him instead, knocking mayweather down.

This is why when the ref says fight on it is fight on. There is far too much risk and far to much at stake to mess around.

Its not even as if Floyd ran up to Ortiz and clocked him. Mayweather stayed in virtually the same position, he even pushes Ortiz away first.

Il admit its not the most aesthetic or freindly way to end a fight. But jesus, Its boxing! its a fight! If ortiz wants to fanny around then its his own damn fault.

Floyd had just been headbutted. If I was him the first thing I would want to do is squash my fist on ortiz's face. Im not surprised that is exactly what he did.


This proved only 2 things. Firstly that Mayweather is always concentrating and secondly that Ortiz isnt smart enough to be in the same ring. Presented with the biggest opportunity of your life, you do not arse around.

Floyd is not obliged to give the fairytale ending in every or any fight. He is merely obliged to turn up and fight. Ortiz would have been wise to do the same.




Edit - As a side note.. If you look at 6:01.. Where Ortiz move his left hand to ?apologise/hug mayweather. Mayweather glances at it and brings his right elbow down to block off a potential left hook to the body. This clearly shows that the only thing on mayweathers mind is fighting. It would have been smart for ortiz to think in the same way. Ask yourself this. If the best boxer in the world (+/-Pacquiao) was infront of you, would you a.) defend yourself or b.) not defend yourself.

 

what are you *****s smoking tonight? anybody with half a brain knows ortiz's headbutt was unacceptable. Some ppl just think the sucker punch was classless. that's their opinion.

 

ortiz headbutts ok, he apologises and gets the points deducted, but in floyd land 2 wrongs make a right and its cool to sucker punch your way to a wbc belt. **** that.

 

I need your explanation for wrong doing. When the ref gives the signal to box and says "time in". Where exactly is Floyd in the wrong for fighting? Ortiz was looking right at Floyd when he through the first punch. So.....................exactly what was he suppose to do?