So, Hopkin's Wins Over ATG Welterweights...

Felix Trinidad was a decent middleweight around the time Hopkins beat him. In fact, Trinidad was favoured to beat Hopkins and become a GREAT middleweight.

DeLaHoya was NOT a decent middleweight when Hopkins beat him. He's never been, nor ever will be a decent middleweight.

I think Griffith and Benvenuti were better middleweights than Trinidad though.
I dont know if Napoles ever even had credentials at 160 but he was the main man at 147. Monzon's greatness certainly isn't rested on the Napoles win in any big way though.

I think people are WRONG to dismiss Hopkins win over Trinidad, that was a great performance over a top rival at 160 at the time.
Beating a guy who needed a gift to get past Sturm is nothing to write home about though.

 

Good post.:good

 

ya because oscar de lahoya didnt fight the best opposition out of any fighter in the last 25 years right? he ducked everyone right? atsch



atsch atsch atsch

 

Oscar in his prime when he fought hopkins? thats the joke of the day LOL

 

Who said that? Stay with the facts, the guy said Oscar didn´t want to fight Bernard at 154 at the time. Probably because there wasn´t enough money and too much risk in it.

 

wheres your source?

 

I didn´t say that Russel did, so ask him. I just corrected you and threw in a guess.

 

Yes, Hopkins victory over Trinidad is the diamond in his career.

An absolute mastery over a confident and dangerous fighter. That was a fantastic win and a masterclass of the highest order.

 

Trinidad....


Briscoe was a good fighter but lets not get carried away here, he wasnt head and shoulders above Hopkins's comp and IMHO he would have been a Bhop victim nonetheless.

 

Exactly.

 

De La Hoya was a welterweight at the time Hopkins talked about it and was a year, two actually, before he made the move to jr middleweight. Hopkins was looking to meet him halfway and he knew De La Hoya would one day make the move as he talked about moving past welterweight.

 

Hopkins would've beaten Bennie sure, I was asking about his opposition.

Trinidad had one fight against mediocre Williams Joppy at MW. Still obviously better than Oscar at MW, as has been said, but I'm not sure I'd rate him above Briscoe. Given the circumstances at the time you could say that, but in reality I'm not so sure.

 

Why?

Because there hasnt been enough time for it to sink in yet.

Give it time.

History will put Hopkins over Monzon.

 

If history puts hopkins over monzon,history has made a big mistake...
If hopkins was argentinian hed be criticised no end....

 

Not really.

Hopkins actualy steped up in weight and beat the best light heavyweight in the world, then almost repeated the feat, both times in his 40s.

Monzon had his chance to do the same and didnt. He sat on his record against smaller fighters.