So how is Margorito supposed to deal with Pac's speed and movement?

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  1. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think that Paq's shorter arms are an advantage? Wow, that's a first. Also, I believe that Mosely has longer arms than Margo, which was a deciding factor in both the DLH fights.

    Trying to draw any rational conclusions from Paq/DLH is pretty clueless. DLH was injecting fluids into his body the day of the fight with no success as his weigh-in and fight weight were the same. Anyone who follows the fight game knows this.

    If Paq can keep the fight off the ropes, Margo will be at a severe disadvantage. If he can't and finds himself constantly against the ropes, Paq will probably wear down.

    I'd give you 3-1 Margo is not KO'd before the sixth. In fact, if there is going to be a KO before the sixth, it will probably be Manny.
     
  2. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    margarito's strength will have no bearing on this fight. he's not a power puncher, he's not even very "strong", he's slower than ****, and he has no defense. pac's going to be teeing off all night. i'll be surprised if margacheato makes it out of the 8th.
     
  3. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    pac? wear down? when was the last time that happened? he's going to be able to do whatever he wants in there saturday night and with cheato's bobble head completely unprotected, he'll be teeing off big time. this fight is going to be ugly for margarito.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    he wont have an answer.

    anyone thinking margo has a chance is a pac hater. simple as.
     
  5. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao by comfortable decision....I expect Pacquiao will box while circling Margarito--turning him the whole time....When Tony does get up close, Pacquiao will counter, pot shot, and keep moving....could Tony wear him out? Possible, but doubtful....Tony needs to cut off the ring big time...

    Margarito will fight like he always has, will come forward, and get hit...Allowing Pacquiao to pile up points/rounds for the decision victory....
     
  6. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Margo can throw 80-90 punches a round and can take it into the later part of the fight, he has an excellent chance of winning. If he can only throw 40-50 he loses.
     
  7. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    he'll be getting countered every time he throws. his punch output will be a lot lower against pac. it happens to everyone.
     
  8. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto, who has fought both Margo and Paq in recent times, has publically said that this fight can go either way and will not give a prediction.

    But you know more than him, right?
     
  9. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    A combined 1 inch difference which amounts to less than a half inch measured armpit to the fist.

    It was negligible. How Mosley beat DLH and beat Margarito was by not allowing them to get leverage because, regardless of arm length, leverage is gained from punching with the entire body downwards onto a target.

    Yes, DLH was drained against Pacquiao. Still, even a drained DLH was nothing but target practice for Pacquiao. You can't simply call him weight drained and be done with it. More at work here.

    He won't be against the ropes. He will be in Margarito's face. If he goes to the ropes he gives Margarito room and more importantly, full extension on his punches. It will make it much harder.

    There is nothing in Margarito to suggest he stops Pacquiao before the 6th. Nothing at all. He needs rounds of punishment to get stoppages against elite boxers.

    On the contrary, Margarito was seriously hurt by Mosley and by Clottey very early on. Pacquiao easily hits as hard as either of them and coming from the southpaw stance with his aggressive style it is not illogical to assume he can do it. He's probably got a better shot of doing it than anyone Margarito has faced to date.

    Well, except maybe Santos who also rocked Margarito badly early on.
     
  10. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Margarito's most likely gonna be sayin' the same **** as Diaz said at the end of their fight :

    " **** he was too fast. The ****er was just too fast. He was ****in' fast !! It felt like they were 2 in there ! I thought Freddie was in there hitting me too !! He's good, he's ****in' good !! " :rofl

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs5bUcrZhBk&feature=related[/ame]
     
  11. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's true. That's why I am saying if he can throw 80-90 a round he still has the capability to do so(the mosely and cotto fights could have ruined him) and he in all likelihood is walking Paq down. If he can only throw 40-50, Paq has his respect and the fight could go down as a more competitive version of Clottey/Paq.

    In the first round, if Paq gets cracked with an overhand right followed by a Margo uppercut, do you really think that Manny will be fighting with impunity as he did with Clottey(paycheck) and DLH(shot and weight-drained)?
     
  12. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    body shots and wide punches all night long, will eventually wear down pac

    its margaritos chin vs pacmans chin/body. whoever can hold up the longest will win.
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    thats what most assume, But I find it a bit more complicated than that, I dont think Manny can just counter Tony and win, distance will give him problems I beleive Manny has to get inside and stay there in which his shorter arms will be the advantage.

    but if he trys to counter Tony from the outside he is going to miss alot unless Tony bends down and puts himself in range. if Tony fights like a tall fighter as he did with Cotto its not going to be an open and closed book.
     
  14. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    there should be a exclusive group of bouts where they allow 15 rounds
     
  15. #1Rounder

    #1Rounder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal this is my opinion also. Yes PAC has great speed and lateral movement, but he doesn't use it as much as he should!! Hatton, cotto, clottey, all had PAC on the ropes. He is not hard to put there, hell, he pretty much goes there himself.