So I talked to a doctor about blood testing...

I've had the same opinion for years. The current method of testing fighters is a joke.

The reason that boxing does'nt use more effective methods is that its too costly to use when you consider the ammounts of fighters that have to be tested every day.

I dont expect boxing to test the way it should be to catch cheats, just too expensive.
......but there is nothing wrong with in as high a profile and as much money that will be made in a fight like Mayweather-Pacquiao, that the promotion itself pay for a legitamate doping process, and not the joke thats in place now.

 

During the BALCO case he was discovered to be a client of BALCO.

 

I really don't care what testing procedures they use in this bout because I know neither fighter is doping. I just want to see the fight, so if that means Manny giving into Floyds demands or vice versa... I really don't care.

Accusing pacquaio of roiding is such nonsense however, it's based on zero evidence, and the faulty logic of "well, if he doesn't take their tests he's guilty." You wouldn't do a lot of things other people asked of you either, that doesn't mean your guilty.

He's taken all of the tests that are required and he's willing to do so once again. He's also offered to give some blood. Floyd's just being a clown as usual.

 

Well, that would be all fine and dandy if only the Mayweathers hadn't already mouthed off and actually accused Pacquaio of being on PEDs in the first place before advocating Olympic style testing.

That's where the argument breaks down in this case.

 

Jr. has actually not accused Pacquiao.
Sr. has speculated that he believes Pacquiao may be doping.

Sr. btw is'nt even part of team Mayweather.


.......and if I was accused of using steroids, I'd be eager to prove them wrong.......in fact, it would have been me who would insist that a legitamate test be given because I would'nt want to be hearing all these accusations if I knew I was clean.


I remember back during the Homerun surge in baseball when there were loads of players hitting over 50 homers.
Before that, it had been over 20 years since a player had hit over 50 in a season (George Foster)
......During McGuire and Sosa's attack on Roger Maris' homerun title, Frank Thomas made mention that if it was up to him, there would be more stringent testing for Roids in baseball......he was insinuating that the homerun surge in baseball was due to players juicing, and he was clean and being overshadowed by these players that were juicing, when he (Frank Thomas) was clean as a whistle and was hitting 40+ homeruns a year while not juicing.

.....in baseball, there is a union, its a team sport and protocol for testing needs to be followed.

.....boxing is not unionized, and you can add a stipulation to a contract for a fight to get made.

.......My point is, had Frank Thomas been a boxer, he'd have insisted on a legitamate doping test be conducted and he would have done exactly what Mayweather is doing now.

 

a blood test before will save the other fighter's life. A blood test after is to late.

 

So you are telling me that these test's are more expensive than the fighter's life?!

 

You forgot to state that Pac is willing to do the urine test in between those times anytime.

Tour de france does it and caught more cheats than the entire history of USADA.

Which drug exactly are you thinking about that really needs blood test???

So far, there are only two : HGH and EPO (although detected in urine as wll, depending on the procedure or equipment being used) - the rest are actually detected using urine.

Is there any athlete ever caught using HGH??? none. Despite the fact that the test already exists for more than 12 years, with thousands upon thousands being tested. So, the likelihood that Pac would be caught using it (assuming he is using it) is zero, none.

EPO on the other hand can be tested with urine specimen or if it missed it, even a simple blood test after the fight would raise suspicion if the test are abnormal.

Steroids? A pee would do.

So the point is it is an exercise in futility if one really wants to avoid test, unless we are talikng of those steroids which has days to weeks half-life. An athlete can avoid one drug test under the USADA regulations with minimal consequence (thus avoids being detected using HGH or EPO which is immediately metabolized by the body anyway).

 

Can someone enlighten me on this?

I have a bit of a background in regards to medicine but not steroids, what i know is that every drug you take will eventually be excreted from your body, that the drug doesn't stay in your blood forever. And that the only way drug or any substance can be excreted is through urine and perspiration(sweating).

So tell me, how does the ped or hgh comes out of the system if it doesn't show up in the urine?

 

how come no one has ever been caught with hgh before?

 

if manny is taking steroids, and the blood test afterwars prove he has been... the world has already seen him whoop floyds ass. mayweather wants it done before the fight so that he has an excuse not to fight should it come to it.

for the record i dont think pacman has been using steroids and floyd is scared after seeing what manny did to cotto

 

Victor Conte said the same thing, well sort of. Pacquiao is looking real bad right now to the casual fans eyes. But both Mayweather and Pacquiao look bad to the hardcore boxing fans. They have to make this fight happen. Easier said than done.

 

But didn't Pac agree to give blood until at least 3 days before the fights and then after the fight itself? Keep the man under 24 hour surveillance until then if they want.

Some athletes have some pretty weird superstitions and pre game rituals. Some of it is pretty ridiculous, some downright absurd. I think you can work around Pac's aversion to getting his blood drawn at least 3 days prior to the fight. Hopefully this gets settled as boxing really needs this fight.

 

For a possible $40-50 million dollar pay check, all of my superstitions would go out the window/

 

it's all excuses to avoid a fight floyd knew he's gonna lose and for good reason. same thing why he won't fight legit ww contenders - lame excuses.