So if an american never boxes outside of the states he can still be called a great

Although Europe has been coming out with more talent in recent years,and the Klitchkos being the best Heavys. 6 out of the top10 pfp guys are still Americans,also Mexico and Puerto Rico are neighbors and it s no big deal for them to fight here. I think its safe to say that the Super Fights will continue to be held in the US.

 

This has been done to death on this site but people still don't seem to get it. Tickets sales are only a drop in the bucket. The casinos pay large fees to have the fight at their place beause it draws in gamblers.

 

There are only a few genuinely world class fighters in the UK and Germany and one in Scandanavia. The fan bass of these nations isn't as thinly spread as it is American, where there are more world class fighters and the skill level of the average fighter is much higher.

 

i get what your saying totally. my point is if it makes sense for an american fighter to fight in the states due to his purse size then why should a european fighter be branded a stay at home boxer for fighting in his own country for the same reason

 

I agree with that. Really I got no problem with guys staying at home as long as they are not letting it get in the way of the bigger fights.

Take RJJ vs DM a few years back. There is no question that fight would have made more money in the states. Roy was popular and a big draw at the time and the casino site fee would have been large and PPV revenue from having the fight at a time convinient to US audiences would have been huge. DM let the hometown thing get in the way.

 

I think there are so many American fighters out there. It seems the European fighters have the support of their whole nation/ ethnic background while in the U.S., it seems more city/region specific. In Europe the homefield advantage just seems to be more of a factor. It generally seems to keep the hometown fighters in and the U.S. fighters out.

 

It depends on the era and weightclass. today:

A super middleweight would have to fight Abraham, Froch or Kessler

A welterweight would have to come to the states and fight floyd, cotto, clottey, Margo, etc

A heavyweight would have to fight Valuev or the Klits (although the Klits have come to the States)

It depends. If this thread is in some way a defense of calzaghe.....then he should have come to the states to fight Jones or Hopkins, in his division and era he could not expect the P4P King (Jones) to come to Europe to fight him.

 

Fighters from lesser third world countries(South America, Asia, Africa) come to the U.S. to make a name for themselves so Americans are usualy fighting top level guys from around the world. Euros on the other hand tend to stick to other euros...

 

They should accept the fact that the sport of boxing will eventually lead them to America, if they are to make it at top-level. For example, Froch is the champion, therefore he can stay in the UK to defend his title. He travelled to America to defend against Taylor because America is the number one boxing country right now and that's how you make a name for yourself. Now, here in the UK, it's a very small country compared to others, so Froch can go anywhere and it's still basically his backyard because it doesn't cost his fans much to get there and most of the places in the UK is basically the same. America is a very big country and even has different timezones because of its size. What happens if a boxer from California has to fight in New York? That isn't his back yard - he's travelled a long way, to a different timezone in fact. Us Brits just have to accept the fact that America is the boxing country of the world and has produced the most top-level boxers in the history of the sport.

 

Plus the fact you can have a fan base from an other country( Mexico especially) and succeed financially. As long as there's money from a fanbase you can be a minority and still have a more than fair fight in America.

 

in the 80's and the late 90's that was the case.... now not so much.

 

Its like Jiu-jitsu, the japanese invented it but the brazilians perfected it. Same with Boxing :good

 

How did the US perfect it? you dont even get decent gates or a decent following.

 

It's a bit misleading, because travelling within the US is a completely different animal than travelling within most European countries. That said, it really depends on the competition the fighter faces. Nigel Benn barely ever left the UK, and most Americans would still rate him highly because he fought the best out there. It's a different story when someone stays in Europe and just fights a bunch of bums, a la Erdei or (until this tournament) Abraham.

 

So a big following and PPV numbers = Great boxing skills?