So if Chisora beats Vit he has to fight Vlad next..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by crippet, Oct 12, 2010.


  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is precisly the reason the Klitchkos are not getting any credit in ATG lists.
    They are dominating the division as a tag team, as a pair, even adding each other into their contracts.
    so they should be judged as such - a very diluted legacy is on store for them.
    It's also ludicrous that they can demand that a fighter has to then fight the other Klit if he beats the first, because it is exactly what they wont do.
    I would put the Klitschkos in the HW ATG top 10 for their achievemnets as a pair - but to get a true reading you have to half it - Each one is half as good as a top 10 HW - Which for me would have them both just scraping in the top 30.
     
  2. unloco

    unloco Boxing Addict banned

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    hes fighting vlad, so vit next , i see ur point though, hope someone beats the klits
     
  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If successful at beating the first one, what's wrong with getting a built in shot at beating the other dominant fighter in the division, and then be seen as the main man in a mere two fights?

    Seems like a fantastic opportunity for Chisora.
     
  4. The trouble is they keep beating every fighter put in front of them. Quite handily too.
     
  5. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If that's how the contract reads, that Chisora fights Vitali IF he beats Wladimir, than Chisora has the best possible situation in front of him.

    Think about it: You fight the recognized #1 fighter. If you beat him, you get to fight the #2 fighter, and have a chance to declare yourself as the true #1 heavyweight.

    Now, Chisora isn't going to get past Wladimir, so it's all moot anyway. But as far as those terms go, any true fighter should take that offer as fast as possible.

    This is what you train for as a boxer, isn't it? To ultimately one day become Champion. Others (such as Haye), should take note. At least Chisora has the balls to step up...gotta give him credit for that.
     
  6. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    learn the facts about the haye vs wlad and vit bouts before you slag of the HAYEMAKER.

    do your research, and dont belive the bull**** that gets tossed around.
     
  7. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know the facts.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it's not.

    The best scenario is to win the fight with Wlad and then negotiate a bout with Vitali.

    This way, if Chisora wins, he's not going to get anything like the money he deserves as the true champion, if he managed to pull it off. He would be fighting for less than a million still, despite holding two legit titles. How is that the best possible situation?

    And what if Wlad was beating him up, round after round, before a Chisora stopped him? You think it's fair that he would then be forced into another tough fighter, rather than having an easy bout? You think it's fair that the dates and location would not be arranged by him? You think it's fair that the purse would be over 80% to his opponent.

    Please.

    These contracts are bull****.
     
  9. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Chisora agreed with that he wouldn't have signed.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He signed it because earning **** money as a world title contender is better than earning **** money as a British level prospect.

    Come off it, that's your response? Just because it's a better offer than what Chisora usually gets, it doesn't mean it's fair. He's a guy earning maybe £40k per fight, so of course he's going to jump at this. Doesn't make it any less disgusting and unfair.
     
  11. bluenoseshf

    bluenoseshf Active Member Full Member

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    Your right Chisora or Warren more likely doesnt agree with that, but that is due to the step up in level that this represents for chisora. If say the contract was to fight for the Euro title then fight the next best European fighter afterwards for the same money he was getting as challenger he wouldnt have taken it.
     
  12. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali's taken care of most of the opponents that would have, or could have, KO'd Vlad...He got rid of Arreola, Sanders, Kirk Johnson, Danny Williams, Lennox Lewis, and to some extent, Sam Peter...

    Vlad has taken care of a few boxers that I think at least stood a better chance to beat Vitali, although I still think Vitali wins, Chaegev and Thompson...

    It's a shame they get away with those contracts...I really believe Vlad would have wilted under the Arreola that fought Vitali...
     
  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thread starter mixed up the names, but he is right.

    What other champ in history had that kind of clause in their contract?

    I some disgusting photos of the Klitscho's have been taken, but that doesn't mean they aren't a seperate entity.
     
  14. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Wladimir would have KO/TKO'd him faster than Vitali did.
    Peter was in better shape for his 2nd fight against Wladimir, and look what happened there.
     
  15. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You may be right, that's why I said to a lesser extent with Peter...But, Vitali dominated Peter in a way that had never been done before...

    Edit: Arreola pressured Vitali even late in the fight...Vitali is at his best under pressure...Vlad gets rattled...