So if Chisora beats Vit he has to fight Vlad next..

Is everyone f****d up here, reason being, one of the brothers become UNDISPUTED without the bro's fighting each other. Thought there is people with brains on here! :huh

 

Klitschkos are the very best. They are good for boxing.

 

I think Arreola woulda been lying on his back if he fought Wlad.

Wlad would just step back pound him with the jab and then come full throttle with a straight right down the pike when Arreola would've tried to get closer.

Wlad's underrated hand speed and power would have been a big problem for Arreola.

Vitali (since his injuries years ago) mainly throws arm punches. He gets away with it because he has amazing strength and can avoid/take punches second to no one.

 

Spot on.

If Chisora wins he's earned the right to a good payday, that's never going to happen with these bull**** contracts.

It's about time the governing bodies stepped in and done something about this mess. I have no problem with a rematch clause or a fight Vitali clause but ffs give the man the decent payday he's earned.

 

How do you know how much he's getting for a fight with Vitali if he beats Wlad?

 

No. If Chisora thought he was a real chance of winning he wouldn't have signed.

 

When Haye signed that ridiculous 3 fight deal with the Klitschkos way back someone posted a link outlining what he would earn for his 2nd fight and it was pittance compared to what he should have. I'll post it if I can find it. I've no reason to believe Chisora will have a better deal.

 

That's the entire point of this thread though.

We'll never know. Because in this weird boxing world, if one of the brothers beats you it automatically means the other one would too.

So in the 90's using that way, Lennox Lewis could have beat Foreman and Bowe, and Holyfield could have beat Golota, Tua and, um himself :huh

 

I'm going out on a limb here and saying that no-one knows. Just the usual suspects bleating whatever they guess might happen.

It's also been implied that any rematch clause to fight Vitali would have to be immediately invoked. So Chisora would not have a chance to fight anyone else in between times.
Has this been confirmed? Because that doesn't sound likely.

People are bang on when they say this isn't fair. This contract simply is not fair. Chisora has done nothing to earn such an incredible deal.

An unearned shot at the title? A payday way beyond what he has earned the right to have? ****ing amazing. If he wins, a guarantee at another title shot? How many times has an offer that good been made in the history of this sport? That isn't fair, it's criminally unfair. He does not deserve it in any size, shape or form.
Having a rematch clause built in - even if the wild guesses that people are throwing around saying that the pay would be low - goes some slight way towards making this a fair deal.

It is still in no way fair. Chisora has done nothing to earn something so incredible.

 

1- I'm not one of the usual suspects.
2- I believe it was Chef himself who gave details for what Haye would receive for his 2nd fight.
3- Incredible deal??? What other options does Wlad have? What ever happened to 'to be the man you have to beat the man? A rematch or Vitali fight would be big yet Chisora would probably earn less than 1.5 million total for those fights, gee where does the rest go......
4- Beyond what he's earned the right to have? Shite. He's the highest ranked guy Wlad hasn't beaten or that's willing to fight him, he's earned it.
5- Boxing's a business first and foremost and for a guy to beat the champ and get a small share for a possible unification/rematch is a ****ing disgrace.
6- Warren is throwing Chisora to the wolves because he knows he has little or no chance and it's promotion for his boy Cleverly. But if Chisora does the unthinkable he's earned the right to a good payday period.

 

Haye was getting only money from Setanta for the first fight if I remember right. I don't think Chisora has the same deal.

 

The bro's got even you mixed up... he is fighting Wlad not Vit, Small Klit-Big Klit, youngest Klitschko-oldest Klitschko etc.

 

I don't see why that has to be in the contract - regardless of whether it is the opportunity of a lifetime. If Chisora beats WALDO, he should be able to choose who he fights next and should have the relative bargaining power and pay that a champion deserves.

 

1 - so what is your source for what Chisora would earn from fighting Vitali?

2 - this isn't Haye. However, Haye was another fighter who hadn't earned a title shot. Now that he has actually beaten two guys who were ranked in the top ten and has a strap he is getting a great offer. See how it works?

3 - gee, Wlad can't win this one can he. Half of his critics say it is a disgrace to fight Chisora. The other half seem to be saying that Chisora has earned his shot and therefore the contracts are bad. Add those two together and you realise it is just criticism for it's own sake. None of which detracts from the fact that Chisora has not earned this.

4 - by extending your logic, Wlad could fight a guy ranked 1000th, and if that was the only fighter who was willing to take the fight, then that fighter had somehow earned it. Someone who had just turned pro with no amatuer experience would somehow have magically earned a shot at the world title. The fact that every other fighter seems too chicken **** to fight Wlad is the reason that Chisora will get this unearned shot - it doesn't somehow mean that he has earned it. Guys with little experience have not earned a title shot, just because the experienced guys are scared. By definition you have to actually fight your way to earn a title shot.

5 - notice how all the critics are speaking as though the fight with Vitali will happen? It won't. The chances are ridiculously remote. It wont happen. Ask yourself this: will it happen? The answer is no. No. No. Just like I won't be hit by a bus today. But I still have insurance. That is all this is. Put this thought into your head. A rematch with Vitali wont happen. When you truly, truly understand this, then you will stop crying about it.

6 - Chisora will have to fluke a win. So, how much should he get paid for a fluke - not skill, not talent, not ability, but sheer dumb luck?

Finally, this is a package deal. Parts A and B.
A) Chisora gets an unearned shot at the title, and a paypacket well beyond anything he has the right to. Good on him for at least having the balls to fight.
B) is the insurance policy, based on the 1/1000 chance that he wins. He gets a chance to win another belt, and another good payday. Not as good as a beltholder would get, but he makes that sacrifice for the benefit of A)

If you add A) and B) together, considering the fact that B) won't occur? This is a ridiculously good deal. Un-****ing-believably good. I agree, it is in no way fair. But Chisora got lucky, he is fighting in an era of cowards.