So if Chisora beats Vit he has to fight Vlad next..

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  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lets look at Don King. He get 3 fight deals almost every time. He pick who fights if he has the options.... only change here is that Chirosa knows ahead of time who he will face in those options.

    I just dont see the difference except for the fact that Chirosa could make 20 times what he would and has a chance at unification... again, how is this a bad thing
     
  2. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Well said, that greedy ******* Don King killed Tyson-Foreman & Tyson-Holyfield in '91, becuase he was so obssessed with his precious options.
     
  3. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its 3 fights
    fight 1.... december 11th
    fight 2.. rematch with Wlad... totally common for a champ to have a rematch clause
    fight 3... against Vitali for unification where the pay would be HUGE for Chirosa

    fine...let chirosa go fight a bum for fight 3 for peanuts..or fight for unification and a HUGE, I mean HUGE payday
     
  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Assuming Chisora wins, will the Klitschko's be true to their stance that the champions deserves at least 50%? As I said, the arguments against Haye were that because Wlad held four titles, he deserved 50% or more, and Haye should have been happy with that and accepted. Will that be the case if Chisora happens to beat Wlad and, in the rematch, Wlad has no belt? Should a fight with Vitali happen, Chisora would have four belts to Vitali's one, so would he also be given the lions share of the money?

    I really like both Klitschko's, especially Wlad whose been in my top 5 for years, but I don't like their negotiations. It shows double standards.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    this is valid. it is a brilliant shot for him, he is 2 wins away from being the clear dominant heavyweight out there.

    the problem with k2, IMO, is the way they fight different challengers.

    i.e. vitali dont fight chambers because wlad did, wlad wont fight arreola because vitali did.

    they should be treated as opposite entities.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    if chisora does somehow beat wlad twice, surely him vs vitali would have to be 50/50
     
  7. CHEF

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    I dont know the actual break down.. I just know from the Haye deal...which was the same or close to it... its was huge... i would think 50-50 sounds right... maybe 55-45 but dont quote me:-(
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    because obviously as it stands chisora should get maybe 10% for fight 1.

    maybe 40% for fight 2.

    but by fight 3, he will be seen as the hw champ, and ranked above vitali, plus he would by then have a fanbase.

    i got no problem with rematch clauses, they always happen.
     
  9. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    The extension of your logic is flawed. It is true that Wlad needs an opponent. This need for an opponent does not mean that the opponent had earned the fight or the paydays.
    In other words, the lottery tickets can be given to someone who deserves and has earned them or someone who hasn't. If they earned them, then they should keep the jackpot.

    Again your logic is just plain wrong. Wlad could fight just about anyone and it would sell.
    You have picked the angle that will be used for billing and claimed that this means that the fight has been earned. It is the job or marketing people to find any angle at all and dress it up - that is hardly evidence that their is any substance to the angle they choose.
    Unless you are saying that every time a fight is hyped that the hype is 100% justified, and that every time a marketing person tries to spin something that the spin is true.