So if Floyd Fights Pacquiao is he still a cherrypicker who fights small guys?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nigel_Benn, May 12, 2009.


  1. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

    5,382
    404
    Jul 16, 2005
    alot of you floyd haters sound like nagging women. if he dosent fight pac, then he ducking him, if he fights him, then hes cherry picking. its ok to to disapprove of a fighters choice of oppoents but thats just unreasonable.
     
  2. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,404
    0
    Jun 13, 2006
    To be even considered #1 P4P, you first have to prove you are the best in your own division. WW is very crowded with talents right now. It is there that Floyd has to prove it.

    Just because JMM and Pac are #2 ans #1 respectively, beating them does not justify PBF getting the number spot right away. AND YES BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY ARE A DIVISON LOWER THAN PBF. PBF needs to pick guys his own size in his own division.

    If PBF fans say division and size does not matter, heck, Wlad or Hopkins would even want a piece of Pac to get that #1 spot.
     
  3. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

    9,989
    2
    Jun 28, 2008
    Irrelevent. Floyd has never been a true welterweight. He fought 95% of his career at 140 and below. In terms of size, Marquez and Manny are closer to Floyds size then Mosley and Cotto.
     
  4. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,404
    0
    Jun 13, 2006
    I do not care how much people say he is not a true welter, he was a champion there and defended his title there against Hatton. So you are saying he really picked on Hatton then and avoided the real welters...
     
  5. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

    5,382
    404
    Jul 16, 2005
    well, yes, mayweather has a size advantage over marquez and pac-man, but when you good enough, you can compete against bigger fighters. duran moved up to fight srl, does that take anything away from srl. hagler fought guys in lower weight classes fighters, as did monxon, as did hopkins and so on. exapmles are endless. just because a fighter has a szie advantage dosent mean he will win and it dosnet mean bigger guy just isnt better then the smaller fighter
     
  6. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

    9,989
    2
    Jun 28, 2008
    So you are saying Manny PAcquiao is a welter because he beat De La Hoya? Just because you fight at a weight doesnt mean you are beholden to continue fighting at that weight and have to challenge everyone at that weight. Floyd tried to make a fight wtih Mosley and was declined. He tried to get a fght with Margarito when Judah and was declined. Hatton was the only fighter to call him out and he fought him. A Hatton that beat Luis Collazo who has shown himself to be a very capable welter.

    If Pacfans, Roach and Arum dont want Pacquaio to get whipped by Floyd, stop using his name as a bench mark for Pacquiaos greatness.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    123,070
    35,184
    Jun 23, 2005
    Pretty much sums up PBF's career as of late. The haters will never be satisfied no matter who he fights.

    If he fights Cotto he was never the same after Margo and he's ducking Shane or Pac.
    If he fights Pac he's too small and cherrypicking and he's ducking Cotto and Shane.
    If he fights Shane he was shot and a prime Mosley would have destroyed him and he's ducking Pac and Cotto.

    It will never end until he losses then this haters will jump on him and say he was never good to begin with and discredit him just like they did Jones pretty ****ing pathetic when you think about it.:-(
     
  8. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,404
    0
    Jun 13, 2006
    Well you said it yourself he has size advantage. I did not say size will determine the winner. I just said, I hope he takes a fight with real welters where he really belonged before his so-called retirement. I really think he can beat either Cotto or Mosley, more chance against Cotto I believe. I just want to see him in the ring with them to prove a lot of boxing fans wrong that he has avoided them.
     
  9. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

    5,382
    404
    Jul 16, 2005
    the only gripe i had with mayweather is that he should have fought margo with that 8 mill, even though bldo was the linear champ, people had been hyping margo up. he could have easily disposed of margo but by not fighting him, he made the hype even worse.
     
  10. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,404
    0
    Jun 13, 2006
    I did not say Pac is a welter. Pac/Roach all along said even before the Oscar fight that after that, they'd go down to 140lbs. PBF fought for a tilte at WW. And since he was the reigning title holder, you have to defend it against welter guys, don't you think? Isn't it fair to give people asking for that title a chance a it? Isn't that being a champion does, defending the title?
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    123,070
    35,184
    Jun 23, 2005
    Why? People would have then said Margo was a nobody and he should have fought the linear champ of the division in Baldo and he ducked him. PBF made the right choice. Not to mention that 8 million came with 2 other fights attached to it.
     
  12. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

    5,382
    404
    Jul 16, 2005
    yeah, well whenever you see a fighter move up in weight, somebody will have a size advatage. it part of boxing. and when ur a special fighter, you can fight bigger men. mayweather fought bigger men as well. now if he beats pac, then fights mosely, then its hard to complain
     
  13. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

    9,989
    2
    Jun 28, 2008
    Floyd is no longer the reigning Welterweight champion, he gave up that belt nearly 2 years ago. He isnt a titlest, and using Mayweathers size advantage as an excuse while trying to say that FLoyd should fight "real welters" even though him and pac are closer in size is just being tool'ish. You seem to ignore Floyd asking for a fight with Mosley and allowing Margarito to negotiate with Floyd for a fight. Hatton won a welterweight title, does that make him a welterweight. Wouldnt that qualify as defending against a welter? Try using your own logic here.
     
  14. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

    5,382
    404
    Jul 16, 2005
    well, he fought dlh right after but just for the simple fact that margo was gettin the hype. people claiming your ducking somebody, has to bother u, but not for mayweather. but it dosnet matter know after mosley destroyed him.
     
  15. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,867
    0
    Dec 7, 2008
    :D:good

    best post of the ****ing week.
    i just cant understand floyd fans who insist that size difference does not matter.

    pbf is at least 2 inches taller, although one floydette fan here insisted pbf is taller by an inch only.

    and pbf has fought as high as 154. if size does not ****ing matter, in the reverse, why the hell will he not fight paul williams or anyone north of 147.

    insisting that this fight is fair and square in terms of size/height/reach between pac and pbf is ****ing deluded and basically being an idiot.