So if Loma vs Garcia happens.... Who wins?

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    exactly, and this was his 4th move north, a move he basically made for chits and giggles, because he always said it was a one off and back to 135 to clean house.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ydksab
     
  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    You're joking, right?

    Salido made Mikey mentally quit. Good thing he had a broken nose to use as a crutch. Broner was lighting Mikey up when he finally let his hands go. Mikey was starting to bleed from the nose and breathing heavily. Lipinets rearranged his face.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    But Mikey is basic. And i don't mean it in a disrespectful way. He is really good at what he does, but he does very little.
    And the scorecards were fair that night, but it doesn´t change the fact that Lipinets gave Mikey a though fight.
    What did Mikey do that night?
    When he backed up he would either throw that explosive jab or a left hook which he used more to create distance than to score with.(as the idea was not to land per say but to get Lipinets off of him)
    When he jabbed he would over commit too often and Lipinets had plenty of success avoiding it. (This was only when Lipinets was pushing Mikey back)
    Mikey never threw the right hand when moving back.
    Mikey also used little head movement and chose to hold a tight high guard instead.

    Mikey also fainted a lot but it was all in a predictable rhythm. And he didn't use the faints to set up any of his punches. What Mikey did was explode with the jab, follow up with a right hand and if the right hand missed, he would follow it with a left hook. That left hook tended to land because Lipinets would bend down to his right and stay on the line instead of moving.
    And Mikey himself stayed on the line the whole night. This is why Lipinets had so much success. (And Mikey's lack of head movement)
    Mikey's jab was vert inaccurate that night because he over committed with it. It was always full force.

    Mikey is basic but really ****ing good at the same time.
     
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  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    It will be tit 4 tat until mikeys counter punching skills start to take over. The size and power of mikey will be too much for lomachenko.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    he gave up a maximum of 4 rds to a belt holder that has a 71% ko ratio in a new weight, after making his previous moves upward look like he was fighting children, what exactly would it take for you to consider him an A+ level fighter?
     
  7. Cafe

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    What did Salido do to affect Mikey on that level mentally? Mikey was winning pretty much every round with what, 7 KD's? A complete domination over his opponent made him mentally quit... Yeah right.

    Salido cracked his nose badly with a headbutt, no reason Mikey should continue on with an injury (which may have big effect going forward and allow Salido to get back in the fight) when his victory was secured at that point. It was a good call.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    But Mikey isn't really a counter puncher. He is more of a "catch and shoot" guy. He wont make you miss with head movement or footwork, but he will catch your punches on the gloves and fire back once you have finished punching.
    But he has shown counter punching from time to time. He did brilliantly vs Salido and Zlaticanin
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    like i said, ydksab. you are the counterbalance to mvc, here to troll on behalf of 1 fighter.
     
  10. the factor

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    People make too out of Garcia being too big. Most of his weight is in his enormous head. He has the biggest head I've ever seen on a human of his size. It just means his head is a bigger target for Loma to pummel. Any one who picks against Loma in the next 5 years should do so a their own peril. This fight will never happen anyway. Garcia will stay safely away from Loma's weight.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    how much are we betting on this one?
     
  12. drenlou

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    I disagree. He's one of the best counter punchers in the game right now.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I made a technical break down of what i saw... How about you read it?
    But all you want to talk about is weight and belts.
    Well the reality is that Lipinets was a paper title holder, who beat a nobody for the belt. Yes, Lipinets had a good KO % but he only had 13 fights. And Lipinets is not elite among those at 140.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I just don´t think he does enough of it. I see him choosing to catch and shoot more than to actually counter.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ive made multiple analysis on multiple threads, but its obvious that none of that is penetrating any blind eyes, so i am left dealing with facts, not interpretations of what each side is sure they are seeing.
    the facts are, that nobody yet knows what mikeys ceiling is because he has yet to be tested by anyone who can even begin to approach a tie with him... the same cant be said about loma.